Comments on: [Vote] What was the REAL reason why we were hammered by Chelsea? http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/ From a Gunner, to fellow Gunners Thu, 18 Mar 2010 21:05:50 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Z KWT Gunner http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24331 Z KWT Gunner Tue, 01 Dec 2009 20:48:50 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24331 Maradona was a shorty....BUT... He was as fast as a bullet and strong... and above all he had BRAINS. I do agree that tall/big players have advantages.... but they also have disadvantages. Same applies for small forwards. Our strikers are too small yes.... too small for one thing though.... The way we play!! Cross... cross... cross.... cross..... cross...... I can see a fed up look in Sagna's eyes (especially when he has a good day crossing)... it is impotent.. and BORING. You can't do the same thing over and over and expect different results. Keep the ball on the ground... do what you do best.... quick slick passing.... And for the love of GOD.... more shots from outside.. Fabs can shoot... Rosy can shoot.... Denilson can shoot,,, Nasri can Shoot... Arshavin can shoot..... How many set plays do we have for shooting from outside? Besides.... I STILL think Arshavin should play in the front.... Arshavin is the kind of player that does a lot even on his BAD DAYS. He really is a silent and intelligent player. his stealth is incredible and his finish killer.... and even out of form has the intelligence to offset any defense creating more space for his mates... in this case VELA and Walcott.... both players that need the space to play at the pace they are comfortable. I think even Dudu could benefit from Arshavin's extra support up front. Arshavin shouldn't play behind the strikers. that should be reserved for Nasri, Fabregas, Rosicky, and Song (and/or Ramsey). Another idea I've been having is why doesn't Wenger play Abou Diaby up front since the fella likes to score?? It might even just work.. As much as i do agree the squad needs a couple of additions, I don't think the current problem lack of talent.... I feel it is more a matter of inability to adapt with the spins and turns of the EPL. Injuries of key players are not dealt with properly. Using the same trick over and over isn't going to cut the cheese. Maradona was a shorty….BUT… He was as fast as a bullet and strong… and above all he had BRAINS.

I do agree that tall/big players have advantages…. but they also have disadvantages. Same applies for small forwards.

Our strikers are too small yes…. too small for one thing though….

The way we play!!

Cross… cross… cross…. cross….. cross……

I can see a fed up look in Sagna’s eyes (especially when he has a good day crossing)… it is impotent.. and BORING.

You can’t do the same thing over and over and expect different results.

Keep the ball on the ground… do what you do best…. quick slick passing….

And for the love of GOD…. more shots from outside.. Fabs can shoot… Rosy can shoot…. Denilson can shoot,,, Nasri can Shoot… Arshavin can shoot…..

How many set plays do we have for shooting from outside?

Besides…. I STILL think Arshavin should play in the front…. Arshavin is the kind of player that does a lot even on his BAD DAYS. He really is a silent and intelligent player. his stealth is incredible and his finish killer…. and even out of form has the intelligence to offset any defense creating more space for his mates… in this case VELA and Walcott…. both players that need the space to play at the pace they are comfortable. I think even Dudu could benefit from Arshavin’s extra support up front. Arshavin shouldn’t play behind the strikers. that should be reserved for Nasri, Fabregas, Rosicky, and Song (and/or Ramsey).

Another idea I’ve been having is why doesn’t Wenger play Abou Diaby up front since the fella likes to score?? It might even just work..

As much as i do agree the squad needs a couple of additions, I don’t think the current problem lack of talent…. I feel it is more a matter of inability to adapt with the spins and turns of the EPL. Injuries of key players are not dealt with properly. Using the same trick over and over isn’t going to cut the cheese.

]]> By: wags http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24316 wags Tue, 01 Dec 2009 19:37:09 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24316 Just thot id mention that on the vote for the score for the Chelsea game, i said it would be 0-3 and guess what I was right did any1 else get it right out there. We wont get any1 in January, wenger hates the jan window unless something exceptional is there to be got, and I dont see any1 coming in at this time, tho we need 3, im not being greedy, but thats what it wil take to turn this into a half decent season, rather than a decline to the abyss of the 3rd tier of the premier league. Just thot id mention that on the vote for the score for the Chelsea game, i said it would be 0-3 and guess what I was right did any1 else get it right out there.
We wont get any1 in January, wenger hates the jan window unless something exceptional is there to be got, and I dont see any1 coming in at this time, tho we need 3, im not being greedy, but thats what it wil take to turn this into a half decent season, rather than a decline to the abyss of the 3rd tier of the premier league.

]]> By: Kola Ogunlaja http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-1/#comment-24266 Kola Ogunlaja Tue, 01 Dec 2009 11:19:18 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24266 Chelsea`s game plan worked and they were generously lucky with the result and i agree they overpowered Arsenal. Perhaps,Arsenal should procure Yaya Toure`s services,after all he can play as a defensive midfielder and play at the Central back too(Saw him play 90minutes there very well against Chelsea) And still get Chamack who is gonna be for free newayz.He is very fast, tall,poaches well (even in the air)and can threaten any team`s defense.He is a great value Arsenal should not miss even though he cannot play this season`s Champions league with us.Patience!.Keep your head up gunners. Chelsea`s game plan worked and they were generously lucky with the result and i agree they overpowered Arsenal.
Perhaps,Arsenal should procure Yaya Toure`s services,after all he can play as a defensive midfielder and play at the Central back too(Saw him play 90minutes there very well against Chelsea) And still get Chamack who is gonna be for free newayz.He is very fast, tall,poaches well (even in the air)and can threaten any team`s defense.He is a great value Arsenal should not miss even though he cannot play this season`s Champions league with us.Patience!.Keep your head up gunners.

]]> By: messi http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-1/#comment-24195 messi Tue, 01 Dec 2009 00:38:57 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24195 mate the only people who were were average were traore, denilson, gallas, eduardo, sagna and arshavin, you people are getting angry because we lost to a team that have been picked from all around the world with a squad total price of more than £100 million, so please of course they will have incredible quality then. But zoo has a point and i agree with him apart from the arsene ediot part. Also I agree with him saying rebuilding phase because every year we sell quality experienced players for big money, invest in most of it then sometimes buy a replacement. The 07-08 season was a very good year we had everything there experience, strength, pace, skills, everything we still have most of it but could do with experience and may be 1 or 2 more players because of our injury record, mate the only people who were were average were traore, denilson, gallas, eduardo, sagna and arshavin, you people are getting angry because we lost to a team that have been picked from all around the world with a squad total price of more than £100 million, so please of course they will have incredible quality then. But zoo has a point and i agree with him apart from the arsene ediot part. Also I agree with him saying rebuilding phase because every year we sell quality experienced players for big money, invest in most of it then sometimes buy a replacement. The 07-08 season was a very good year we had everything there experience, strength, pace, skills, everything we still have most of it but could do with experience and may be 1 or 2 more players because of our injury record,

]]> By: Nando http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24166 Nando Mon, 30 Nov 2009 22:28:16 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24166 Ochoa would be a perfect for Arsenal, but I feel Wenger would rather give one of the youngsters in the team a chance to come in for Almunia. Cole would be good upfront but I don't think West Ham will let him go considering that they are fighting relegation. A good target man would be Luca Toni and I think he's available since he's had a falling out in Bayern. They could try to sign him on loan till the end of the season and then Arsenal won't jump into a rushed long term decision. Ochoa would be a perfect for Arsenal, but I feel Wenger would rather give one of the youngsters in the team a chance to come in for Almunia.

Cole would be good upfront but I don’t think West Ham will let him go considering that they are fighting relegation. A good target man would be Luca Toni and I think he’s available since he’s had a falling out in Bayern. They could try to sign him on loan till the end of the season and then Arsenal won’t jump into a rushed long term decision.

]]> By: dan http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-1/#comment-24130 dan Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:48:31 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24130 Chris, I tend to agree with your view, except I don't believe any Arsenal player could make the chelsea first eleven, not based on yesterday's performance. Had the ref done a proper job it could well have been 4 nil. Edu kicking the ball out of Cech's arms, it was a gimmick, on the other hand Sagna pulling down Anelka who had a real goal scoring opportunity...unlike vela with his back to the goal and going nowhere slowly. Perspective is in order, tactically, athletically and clinically they were the superior side. The silver lining I think is that the title pressure(though not decided) is now removed. Chris, I tend to agree with your view, except I don’t believe any Arsenal player could make the chelsea first eleven, not based on yesterday’s performance. Had the ref done a proper job it could well have been 4 nil. Edu kicking the ball out of Cech’s arms, it was a gimmick, on the other hand Sagna pulling down Anelka who had a real goal scoring opportunity…unlike vela with his back to the goal and going nowhere slowly. Perspective is in order, tactically, athletically and clinically they were the superior side. The silver lining I think is that the title pressure(though not decided) is now removed.

]]> By: fowler http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24120 fowler Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:11:43 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24120 what we need: a top class kepper e.g akinfeev, ochoa, lloris or even just rob green. another top class big centre back e.g. fazio, sakho, zapata,subotic someone in the middle to help song e.g. L.diarra ,matuidi ,veloso, vieira, carlton cole!!!!! all of these could be done by spending only in the region of 40 million pounds what we need:

a top class kepper e.g akinfeev, ochoa, lloris or even just rob green.

another top class big centre back e.g. fazio, sakho, zapata,subotic

someone in the middle to help song e.g. L.diarra ,matuidi ,veloso, vieira,

carlton cole!!!!!

all of these could be done by spending only in the region of 40 million pounds

]]> By: simplyTheBest http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24114 simplyTheBest Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:47:50 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24114 we did miss RVP but not clichy as we werent troubled from the left.i dont think we missed bendtner at all as you miss some one who has done something to be missed he cant win us a game against a relegated team like west brom what he could've done against chelsea. yes we did miss diaby and his physical presence in the middle almost everybody's fav team played and we lost not just once but twice which shows how bad our judgement and assumptions are. best of luck for the rest of the season. we did miss RVP but not clichy as we werent troubled from the left.i dont think we missed bendtner at all as you miss some one who has done something to be missed he cant win us a game against a relegated team like west brom what he could’ve done against chelsea. yes we did miss diaby and his physical presence in the middle almost everybody’s fav team played and we lost not just once but twice which shows how bad our judgement and assumptions are. best of luck for the rest of the season.

]]> By: dada http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-2/#comment-24112 dada Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:38:49 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24112 kushagra, you took the words right out of my mouth...I dont believe chelsea had better players , well except for drogba. I just think they had more belief and purpose! we have a perfect mid field but our defense and attack seems to be disconnected, did you see how the chelsea defense was organised? superb! now I see why almunia should leave cos his positioning is bad and gosh, he makes decisions like a PC with a PII processor! WENGER should go for CARLTON COLE and YAYA TOURE, I dont think chamakh will be any good for now considering he has already played for bordeaux, we need someone who can score goals or we'll be whooped silly in the champions league. Carlon Cole pleas, even if its 15million pounds. kushagra, you took the words right out of my mouth…I dont believe chelsea had better players , well except for drogba. I just think they had more belief and purpose! we have a perfect mid field but our defense and attack seems to be disconnected, did you see how the chelsea defense was organised? superb! now I see why almunia should leave cos his positioning is bad and gosh, he makes decisions like a PC with a PII processor! WENGER should go for CARLTON COLE and YAYA TOURE, I dont think chamakh will be any good for now considering he has already played for bordeaux, we need someone who can score goals or we’ll be whooped silly in the champions league. Carlon Cole pleas, even if its 15million pounds.

]]> By: SwedishGooner http://www.thegunninghawk.com/2009/11/30/vote-what-was-the-real-reason-why-we-were-hammered-by-chelsea/comment-page-1/#comment-24110 SwedishGooner Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:30:22 +0000 http://www.thegunninghawk.com/?p=12677#comment-24110 Agree Agree

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