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Arsenal vs Liverpool, 1-1: Full time analysis and player ratings

Written by Chris on April 17, 2011 – 22:30

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The Game

This hurts. And it does for a number of reasons. Let’s start with the obvious, as soon as Luis Suarez’s effort hit the wall on minute 101, the referee should have blown the final whistle, waiting for the move to end was a terrible decision and it cost us the title.

It hurts because the players, just like against Barcelona, wanted to win the game, gave everything to do it and went very close to do it. One has to wonder why we approach games against the likes of Chelsea, Liverpool, Manchester United and Barcelona like this yet we fail to show the same energy, the same determination and the same grit against bottom-of-the-table opposition.

It hurts because yet again we showed that we have no Plan B. The last goal at the Emirates from open play came more than 270 minutes ago and there is a reason why. Theo Walcott was doing exceptionally well on the right, delivering some good crosses, but for who? His intentions were rarely read by his team mates and when presented with a good opportunity to hit the target from range we opted to pass it to the wingers.

It hurts because yet again, as soon as there was some pressure on the defensive department we panicked and collapsed. Andy Carroll and Luis Suarez had a shocking game, both of them, yet the Uruguay International was twice through because of a misunderstanding between our central pair and of course I have no idea what our players were thinking when they opted not to properly clear the ball in the 100th minute of the game.

And it hurts because this means that the second place in the table is no longer as safe as it was a month or so ago. It will not be easy to bounce back from this disappointing result and facing Tottenham Hotspur away from home is not what we need on Wednesday.

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Player Ratings

Szczesny: 7,5 – Back with a bang. Made a number of “easy” saves throughout the game but also a great block in the 75th minute to deny Luis Suarez after a terrible misunderstanding between our two centre backs.

Koscielny and Djourou: 6,5 – Not much to do as we had plenty of possession yet when called into action they twice failed to understand each other in the second half giving Luis Suarez ample of space to advance and shoot. Luckily, we survived in both occasions.

Clichy: 6,5 – Not the busiest of afternoons for Gael who did well on the left, making a number of very good interceptions.

Eboue: 7 – Did Lucas dive? Yes, absolutely, but there was no need for Emmanuel Eboue to be so close to the Liverpool player knowing that all he had to do was to push him wide waiting for the referee’s final whistle. Shame, because Emmanuel had a splendid game on the right, always dangerous.

Wilshere: 5,5 – Running out of gas young Jack. Struggled in midfield and failed to make an impact when surging forward to help the offensive department.

Diaby: 6 – Brilliant start to the game with a great run and great header that went just wide, excellent in tracking back and block Suarez in the 27th minute but back to square one in the second half. Too many misplaced passes, too much jogging instead of helping at the back.

Fabregas: 6,5 – So and so from the captain. Produced a couple of very good passes such as the one for Emmanuel Eboue in the 45th minute but at the same time also produced a number of terrible passes in midfield. Did well to win the penalty that should have won us the game.

Nasri: 6 – Quiet game from Samir who should be more adventurous in the final third. Like for example I cannot understand why he opted to pass it wide to Theo in the second half instead of going for goal himself. Important to mention a nice flick for Robin in the 85th minute.

Walcott: 7 – I believe Theo had a very, very good game. Made a number of dangerous runs down the right but as I said in the introduction way too many times there was no one to meet his crosses.

van Persie: 6,5 – With the exception of one poorly taken effort, Robin was perfect from set pieces, delivering a number of excellent corners including the one for Laurent’s head in the first half. Unfortunately, he missed a golden opportunity in the 85th minute of the game although he kept his cool later on to give us the lead from the penalty spot.

(Subs)
Song, Arshavin, Bendtner: 6 – No big impact from the three subs. Alex Song, the one who tripped Lucas on the edge of the penalty area, seems to be a shadow of himself and yet again, one has to wonder why on earth Nicklas is playing on the right, we know it, he said it, everyone knows it, he is a central striker not a winger.

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  • Andykal1968 says:

    Insanity- doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstien.
    Read this comment from another arsenal fan. I think it sums us up.

  • MrStrange says:

    I just hope this game stops all the brain-washed anti-moaning positive “fans” from repeating – WE CAN STILL WIN THE TITLE ! Just so you know – if you can mathematically still catch up with the leaders or one leader – doesn’t mean you will do it ! You need a strong team to do that ! It is simple to say “If we win the last 8 games – we are champions”,but that needs to be done ! United would do that and this Arsenal team would not ! Ever !
    But the most important thing – We will take positives from this games,and our players will learn from this game,and . . . oh,maaan . . . I can’t go on . . . it is too pathetic and hilarious at the same time ! Just like Kenny offing AW on television ! Darn,how I wish I was that guy instead of Kenny !

  • arzenal says:

    How can you rate eboue above the cb’s he hardly came back toward the second half no to mention his foolish and rash challenge on lucas which was he was going no where. He was brilliant going forward but left so much space at the back. Clichy and the the cb;s played far better than eboue. I diasgree with your tatings.

    • A.M says:

      I agree with you mate. Thats what you get when you have a clown instead of a footballer in the team in the shape of Eboue. He should just take up the mascot role and remain there. A player of his so called stature should have anticipated something like that and its not rocket science to think one wouldnt want to go down easily at the slightest touch in the penalty box. Im not having the Lucas dived crap, Eboue lunged at him from the back, watch the replay, you could even see his legs entangled with Lucas’s. Every player has the right of going down, heck actually Fab did almost the same thing too but its just too bad Eboue was too stupid to be sucked into it.

  • hugh says:

    wallcot was terrible should never have started,he
    has no footballing brain at all everytime he got the ball he was clueless!we arent good enough and havent been for a long time,how long does wenger need my patience is wearing very thin at the minute!!!!

    • RedCurrant says:

      You sound like Chris Waddle. That’s not a compliment.

    • quanvu says:

      Hugh. i agree. This Kid is Wengerizing( like to talk , do crap thing).
      Wallcot is like copying someone’s style( Bale) of always using speed to beat defenders but never succeed. He never knows when to stop, shoot or pass. He doesnt know to run in and out to to pass the ball with his teamates, just run up and down.

      I

      • A.M says:

        He gets pushed out wide too often then he panics and the only thing he knows is to just cross it blindly into the box. NO invention of a dragback. NO positional sense. NO pausing and actually trying to dribble someone at speed. Just play him through the middle already!!!

        • richie says:

          Everyone just crosses blindly into the box the difference is other teams flood the box, we on the other hand have 2 in the box maximum, thats why no one’s ever there to profit from crosses that flash across the 6 yard box

        • hugh says:

          yes you are right thats plain to see that he is more dangerous when running through the middle and finishing because he has no brain to play on the wing which we have seen all year but as usual wenger has his blinkers on!

      • Cory says:

        Did you not watch the game today? Walcott’s speed was about the only thing that consistently troubled the Liverpool defense. He was so impactful that they had to make a sub early in the 1st half to keep up with his pace, and that didn’t even work. He produced several great balls in the box, but no Arsenal player was going for them. Quit bashing Walcott and actually watch the games.

  • Alpha T says:

    Didn’t watch the game so can’t really comment on your ratings!
    Teams know exactly how to defend against us and the lack of a plan B or alternative formation has been our undoing!
    Most of us never really thought we could win the league at the beginning of the season, the biggest disappointment is the Carling cup fiasco!

    Let’s just hope for better against the spuds.

  • Jake says:

    I refuse to believe that the referee cost us this game, much less the title. The title wasn’t ours to win or lose today, and anyone who’s watched Arsenal play this year was neither surprised by this result, nor by Wenger’s childish, affected reaction to the result. Woe is me, Woe is Arsenal. Give me a break. Pathetic. They just didn’t get it done on the pitch and have no one else to point a finger at. PERIOD.

    • tommy says:

      true. No more excuses for Wenger. Get some men in the team or risk losing the fans

      • bergkmamp says:

        ‘risk losing the fans’? real fans, real supporters never stop supporting their side. ive supported AFC through thick and then i would NEVER switch to another club!

        • the guns says:

          yeah, fans that can be ‘lost’ aren’t worth keeping. this team and coach will be gone in ten years, the club will remain.

        • Satish says:

          Well well well..losing the fans? Do you think anyone gives a damn if you stop supporting Arsenal?? I doubt that.Arsenal F.C is a club with tradition.We are a top class club playing football the right way.If there is any club that comes kinda close to Barcelona for playing real good football it has to be Arsenal..As a Barca and Arsenal fan..i see a lot of similarities between both the teams..Barca never managed to win anything between 1999-2005…the fans of Barca were not complaining cos they always backed the team and always believed every season we are getting better and for finally we would reach the heights where others will start taking notice.Spain national team is an example in itself.Spain have been underachievers for so many years..with time they have now two huge titles of being champions of Europe first and then the world.

          Building a team always takes time and buying a team never guarantees success.With the amount of money spent by Chelsea,Spurs and even Real Madrid they should be winning titles for fun..has it happened? Answer is a HUGE NO.Get behind the team and support the team lads..I can see the class in the side and ofcourse i agree we are shaky at the back..but the fact is we have done reasonably well when you consider we have played an entire season with a back four that includes JD(Coming after a long term inury) and Kozzy(new entry into the EPL) and Squill(new entry into the EPL) and no TV(except the first2 games)and look at our defence over all we have done really good and i can only see them get better.And yeah we have had two young GKs who have done really well under pressure(Fabi and Scz) have been wonderful considering their age and experience.Lets support the team.Arsene Wenger knows what he has to do and that is the reason he is at the helm and we are not..And as one of the boys said..Players,managers,fans they all do come and go..ARSENAL F.C will always remain forever.

          • Dave says:

            “i see a lot of similarities between both the teams..Barca never managed to win anything between 1999-2005″

            What Barcelona did was bring in a manager that can win them trophies and they did on 2005. So you’re saying Wenger should go? I believe our quest for glory will take a lot longer if Cesc leaves this summer as Wenger been building the team around him. Also, I wouldn’t exactly praised our defense with the goals we have been leaking, especially poor performances like the Newcastle and spuds. Instead of buying a reliable CB who is ready for the EPL, Wenger choose Kozzy and Squill who have been error-prone this season. Scz might be a keeper for the future but we have to endure with Almunia and Fabianski whose individual errors caused us points. I’m still not entirely convinced with Fab just because he played a handful of good games. Before this season started, no sensible Arsenal fans were asking to spend like Man City or chelski but buy those players that we really need like CB and GK. Of course, it’s more than buying, Wenger’s one-dimensional tactics and according to ex-Arsenal players, Arsene doesn’t teach players how to defend, especially on set-pieces are also the caused of the problems of the past six years.

        • Paddy O'Neill says:

          I agree, real fans will always support the club. I’ve been a supporter since 1966 and always will be. Still new blood needs to be brought in, no use saying “next year we will……………………………” Wenger has been doing this for too long. However, if Wenger went who would we get. Mourinho, Guardiola etc would need wads of cash and that is not forthcoming from the new owner believe me.

      • amused says:

        good riddance to you :) the gunners dun need fans that can be lost.

  • gunner17 says:

    this was a fix, the referee was bought.

    but it was still a shambles on our part.

    first and foremost, we were casual. couldn’t tell we were in a title race at all, felt like a friendly. a lot of players were passengers. that’s the most disappointing thing.

    second, wenger is tactically ignorant. liverpool read arsenal like a book, arsenal never threatened at all.

    third, why the f*** can’t we defend? again and again we fall apart with the slightest bit of pressure. i don’t blame eboue entirely. the whole team was to blame. they should have had 10 mean behind the ball after rvp scored.

    still, fix.

  • Haris says:

    We need to switch back to 4-4-2.
    Robin was terrible…

    I hope we at least will finish second.

    And why the hell did Wenger refuse to shake hands with Dalglish.

  • Hunter says:

    I only have 1 comment:

    WHY THE FU@K CAN’T WE KICK THE BALL INTO ROW Z LATE IN THE GAME WHEN WE NEED TO DEFEND?! ARE OUR PLAYERS SO DUMB THEY CAN’T FIGURE THIS OUT?!

    If we had done that we would never have been in a position to give up a pen in the first place and the referee would have been forced to call the game before playing an additional 4 minutes of stoppage time.

    • A.M says:

      If you ever wanted a better example of the kind of mental strength that we have, the last 2 mins summed it all up. Not once, not twice, not 3 times this season, we just have that almighty power of cocking it up for ourselves. I wont be surprised if in another 10 years we will be known as the greatest team to have ever cocked up for themselves so spectacularly on a consistent basis.

    • amused says:

      the ref was obviously going to add minutes until we conceded anyway. To be fair (if you have watched the game), they booted every ball up whenever they could. Oh and just to be clear, im pretty sure our players are smarter than you.

      • Hunter says:

        They obviously are not smarter than anyone because if they were they would have been able to see he game out. We had numerous chances to kill of the time starting with the Kuyt chip from the kickoff after the goal. Instead of rushing that ball back into play our goalkeeper should have taken the maximum time allowed and then played the ball as far op the pitch as possible. That would have killed the game off easily. Did we do that? No. The other thing anyone with a brain knows is that the thing you have to do the quickest after a goal is win the ball back ASAP to stop the other team getting my momentum. Did we do that? No.

        Obviously if I had been in the locker room I would have been the smartest one there because not one person on the pitch could figure this out.

  • Vellentine says:

    I don’t know what is wrong with arsenal anymore.wingers who can’t beat teenage fullbacks,strikers who cant kill off a game within 90min,a defence that panics when one minute remains on the clock,the most shameful squad in the history of arsenal f.c not to mension that we have been building it for five years.the money is now available lets go all out and sign the players we need and if wenger is not prepared to do that then he should go before we howl him out gadaffi style.

  • Bengali Gunner says:

    Dissapointed yet again. Seems really unfair that the ref gave those extra minutes and lucas was smart. You cant slate Eboue, he was probly just gonna hassle Lucas to the corner flag but Lucas stopped at the right moment knowing Eboue was behind him, like a car hitting the brakes suddenly, as soon as he felt eboue behind him he fell to the floor. Nothing he could do really.
    Sad sad day for AFC

  • SeattleGooner says:

    Disappointing game, but anyone who has watched more then a handful of games will not be suprised. for a team that never alters it’s approach to a game, Arsenal’s strikers have remarkably little idea of where to be. I can’t believe I am still watching, this long into the season, Sagna/Walcott crossing the ball in with one or none people in the box. The fancy give and go doesn’t work anymore, as teams wait for it.

    As for today,based on our play we got what we deserved. We didn’t play well enough for the win I felt, and we would have been lucky to snag it.

    • Chris says:

      So sad, so true.

      Here we are, yet again, talking about the same things over and over again, getting annoyed at our own selves for repeating the same things we said last season and the one before.

      Sad.

      • tommy says:

        Truly it is very sad. I enjoy the blog Chris–hope I’m not being too negative

      • SeattleGooner says:

        Wenger must have alzheimer’s. I think he is the only one left who wants to keep doing the same thing every game and expect a different result. You can see the frustation in the players, they are trying to execute a gameplan they no longer believe in.

        Personally, I think wenger’s days as a coaching manager are fading quickly. His playstyle and ethos have become synonymous with Arsenal, but the world has had over a decade of Wenger-ball to devise a method for stopping it. Personally, I think Wenger is still a world class evaluator of talent, and a good team builder. He would make a great general manager in charge of personel, while another manager could be brought in. I know this is just wishful thinking though.

        • tommy says:

          Agreed. Adapt or die. Imagine Deschamps as coach and Wenger as general manager or in charge of recruitment

  • John says:

    We don’t have a 25-30 goal a season player which will win a club the title. Van Persie chance on the 85th minute should have been buried and he never held up the ball for the midfielders to enter the game. No movement in the box and there is a reason why Bendtner is played on the wing is because he is too lazy to play up front. Chamakh is a hard worker and is a great sqaud player but is not going to bag 25-30 goals a season.

    Best away record in the league. Home form is about mid-table. The players looked nervous and the fans were quiet and never sang and even Ray Wilkins pointed that out in the commentary. Arshavin did make an impact mainly by keeping things simple.

    Walcott’s crosses today dare I say at least one would have been put in the back of the net at Old Trafford and at Stamford Bridge, if he was playing for Man Utd or Chelsea. No movement up front was the main problem and has been for the last 4 home games. We have no unpreditable player and that is one of the reason’s why we don’t win anything at the moment and have not since Adebayor left.

    A Man Utd fan told me today ‘Arsenal have the worst home support in the world’ and leads we on to the point that our player’s have not been unpreditable in front of goal at home because they look scared everytime they go on that Emirates pitch this season. Stop blaming the defence the poor defence this season is a myth the reason why we are not going win the league is because we have not scored enougth goals at home. No goals at home against Newcastle, Sunderland and Blackburn have cost us the league. Even against WBA at home we looked nervous longer the game was 0-0 and against Spurs once Spurs got one back. we looked like a deer in the headlights.

    • Davi says:

      Not long ago the “front 4″ of nasri, fabregas, walcott and rvp looked incredible, easily the best in the league. We had pace, creativity, movement and finishing abilities, but they just aren’t clicking as well at the moment, and I think the main reason is that rvp (somehow) looks tired.
      I think we are really missing that energy up front that players like drogba, rooney and tevez provide for their clubs with incredible consistency. I had thought/hoped chamakh would provide that energy, but it appears not to be the case.

      • amused says:

        chamakh was not even brought on today…

  • frank says:

    Walcott was shit up against a 17 year old full back he did nothing.We havent got one player in our team who will boot the ball into row Z. 3pts out of 9 in the last 3 home games.The truth is we are not good enough.We wont finish 2nd

    • Paddy O'Neill says:

      I have my fingers crossed that we finish 4th.

  • tommy says:

    Wenger has said he is going to continue the youth policy, so as fans we had better get used to seeing the problems that having no experienced quality inevitably bring–defensive blunders, inability to see games out–conceding right after scoring–inability to grind out wins–collapsing every Feb/March, and NO chance at a trophy. I really hate to say this, as a huge fan since Graham (and a fan of Wenger until four years ago, when it became clear he was ignoring deficiencies in the team) but I did not watch the game today because I knew we wouldn’t win. And I hate to say this too, but for the future of the club and to have any chance at winning trophies in the future (or even restoring Arsenal to feared and respected status in the league) we must hope that the draws and losses continue and that we barely hang onto fourth place. This I fear will be the only thing that might force Wenger to adapt and add some experienced quality to the team and clear out the mediocre players. The fans in my opinion are not asking for Arsenal to become Chelsea/City/MU/Pool, but it is TOTALLY reasonable that they are unhappy with the team no longer being feared or respected by their opposition. Mental strength? Come on now. The fans are NOT stupid

    • montreal gooner says:

      it is a pain to be an arsenal fan , we must be really bad guys in our previous life to deserve such sh*t .
      I agree with AW about youth policy , anyhow the EUFA coming ruling will oblige such , but to continue to stick with useless denilson , eboue , rosicky , aluminia , sq18 is an another story .
      so the question of the day ; should we continue to be arsenal fan ?

      • tommy says:

        Yes of course we should. But we should also prepare for more of what we’ve seen the last six seasons and not get out hopes up about titles or trophies because they are beyond this bunch. Period

  • alc says:

    its becoming laughable that we could throw away so many points from winning positions. Instead of just saying we have mental strength why dont we just show it.

  • Davi says:

    I have to say I thought diaby was excellent today. The only real fault I can find to his game was that he gave it away a bit cheaply a few times, but he was brilliant in winning the ball back, and I have to disagree with the comment that he jogged back too often, he covered for others’ mistakes on a number of occasions and did his utmost to protect the defence. I think he and eboue have been excellent in our last couple of games due to their freshness, but our major players look relatively tired.
    The result was a joke. We are allowed to have games where we don’t destroy teams with our movement etc, and I wouldn’t have begrudged liverpool the draw up until we took the lead, because they defended very well, but we did enough to win the game fairly, and again we have been robbed. I think it’s a little harsh to blame eboue for the penalty. He had to stick to lucas and not let him get proper control of the ball, and the ref has been conned. It’s the easiest thing in the world to slow down in front of a defender, and fall to the floor, and the ref should have been more wise to it. That said, he had a good game overall, the ref, so it’s a shame it was spoiled at the end. The one to blame really is lucas fror diving, but it’s just one of those things really. Tonnes of players try that move, and it often works. especially when the ref seems to want to “even things up”.

    • Hunter says:

      As usual Diaby couldn’t finish a full match without wtaking while the other team is on the attack I’ve had enough of him.

      • SeattleGooner says:

        boy you said it Hunter. Between Diaby, Denilson and Squillaci I can’t figure out which player I like the least. Diaby is a toothless, useless sort offensively, and only mediocre in my opinion defensively. He has size (but doesn’t use it), is a good dribbler (but not as good as he thinks) and has a powerful shot (which he never uses either). The problem is, HE DOESN’T USE ANY OF THESE TRAITS!

        I am so exhausted of seeing Diaby get the ball at the top of the box or just in the box with a clear shot to goal, and then watch him turn away from it sheepishly and pass it out. Half the time his teammates were expecting a shot and are unprepared and suprised to recieve the ball! And how often have you seen Diaby play with his head? The man is our tallest outfield player this side of Bendtner, but he often plays as little as Arshavin. I often think Diaby aspires to be Samir Nasri, but thats not the kind of player he is/should be. The header today was close, I will give him some credit for that, and his first half was one of his better spells I’ve seen from him. However, with him just as with Arsenal, its always “one step forward, one step back” and as good as Diaby was in the first half, he was equally miserable in the second half.

        • Davi says:

          What are you watching!?

  • Unbeaten 49 says:

    Bye bye season …. tears on my eyes :(

  • emhardy says:

    arsenal are luckyless.i hope we can even finish 2nd

  • GunnerB says:

    We will not win anything again under Wenger. We need a winner to lead us, some 1 who understand the meaning of SUCCES. In 10 years time every 1 will remember Birmingham city as 2011 carling cup winners.

  • tommy says:

    I predicted losses and draws until the title was out of reach and the pressure is off. So sad to see it happening

    • Phil23 says:

      15 game unbeaten streak?

  • Jibzi says:

    Disappointing yet again and that is the end of our title hopes, as Lee Dixon has said on MotD2 that we have taken too many blows i.e. v Birmingham, Barca, ManUre, Sunderland, Blackburn, etc in the space of a month or two and is just going to be too much to handle.

    We were really sloppy at times and over-elaborated too much, but in the end we won the penalty and scored from it. Just to go back on the Spearing penalty claim earlier, it looked soft and he used his arm to control the ball so no penalty.

    When we scored, Kuyt tried to lob WS but even though the shot was going over, he held onto it and I might be wrong but he made a hash of a simple kick down the field, where it landed in our own half, and add the awful miskick, poor footwork and stupid foul by Song and we were in trouble. The thing is, regardless of the little bit of time setting up, scoring and celebrating the penalty by RVP, the ref has already gone well beyond the alloted 8mins and the free kick should have been the very last kick of the game, but he chose to keep it going, and then after their soft penalty award, why couldnt we have at least 1 minute to try to do something?

    I dont quite get the concept of this, because we scored our penalty around 50 seconds before 98mins elapsed, and the foul took place 1min before RVP scored, so ref should add no more than 1min and when it went beyond that, Suarez had a free-kick, and as many of us thought, it should have been the final kick. If the ref is going to add the exact time from our penalty period (from winning the pen to restart of game), then he has to add time for EVERY delay, like corners, goal-kicks, etc and it would amount to 15-20mins extra time (20-25mins for crap teams/matches).

    I only bemoaned the injury time issue because when ManUre are losing by a goal, they seem to get 5-6mins of extra time out of nowhere. I honestly cannot stand the media when things go so wrong, when you hear the same crap uttered by Jamie Redknapp for example and so its refreshing that there are excellent Arsenal sites like this where the analysis is honest and to the point. But this is surely it and all we can do is secure 2nd spot because ManUre wont slip up like we always do.

  • Omar says:

    Man I’m so fed up and pissed off…. another Gunner screw-up…. will they ever learn?! I mean do they know a main basic which is shooting! I mean they rarely shoot the damn thing, when your one-two’s and simple, entertaining isn’t working…. do you keep on doing it? Also, about after we scored, where was our captain? I mean the team was panicking and defending childishly… where was our captain to bring calmness to the side, I am not blaming the ref or Eboue for this draw…. they’re goal should never have come and Wenger and the whole team have themselves to blame.

    Pathetic and ridiculous.

    Omar

  • Waleed says:

    Disagree with your ratings. They would have been much higher had the ref not gifted Liverpool a penalty at the end. We didn’t play at our best but we played well. Our final pass, finishing was a bit off but we pressed Liverpool very well and we defended well whenever they got a sniff. It should have been another clean sheet. Should have been a 1-0. It’s really sad that once again the referee has taken away 2 points from us. Newcastle, Sunderland, and Liverpool – that’s 6 points the ref has stolen from us in the second half of the season.

    I don’t think it’s right to say that we can’t blame the ref. I thought the players tried everything and gave it their all today, and we got a deserved goal. The margins are so small at this level that one decision like that can end your season, and it most likely has for us now. You can try your best but get undone by a dive.

    • gerry dee says:

      don’t have any time to say anything so.. this ^^

      had that move at the 85th minute gone in. we would all be praising arsenal. i thought diaby was dangerous today, and RVP looked tired. but i still think the game shouldn’t have gone on so long. i thought that before wenger talked about it. but i agree with everything waleed said.

    • Chris says:

      They would have been much higher had the ref not gifted Liverpool a penalty at the end

      Wrong, my ratings are very rarely based on one single episode and I said it in more than one occasion so it would be fair to stop jumping to such conclusions.

      After all, if that was the case, I would have given Eboue a 3, don’t you think?

  • Huge Arsenal Fan says:

    I always read this site as it isn’t biased and is a well run blog.

    Watching us play today we were a shadow of the team playing in the begining of the season whupping teams 3-0, 4-0, 5-0 but now we cant manage a win alone. We’ve lost our flair, our fancy footwork around the box doesnt work. So how do we play?

    Thats right just whip balls into the box hoping our ST will get it.

    We crumble under pressure and I feel there needs to be a major change in the summer not players or managers necessarily but playing style, I enjoy the pass, pass, pass but sometimes we need to switch it up, like press, take a long shot, maybe even play two strikers.

    This really was a downer but I did see this as an outcome going out the champions league so early.

  • jeff says:

    ebou is tribble,.. why he running into body of lucas..the ball is going out from our penalty area..

    • montreal gooner says:

      jeff , simple , there are good and professional players and there are always youth and useless players,
      The problem is with our coach AW , he should be firm , any player non performing should leave .

      • amused says:

        take a course in physics. Eboue turned and lucas placed his body in front of him. what do you expect to happen? Heard of inertia and momentum? i guess not.

  • Huge Arsenal Fan says:

    By the way, Djourou does not lose!!!

  • GreenWhale says:

    Keep the faith!
    ok, we are problematic and unbelievably senseless but this is our Arsenal and it’s in our hearts!

    Imagine how devastated Eboue must feel now, knowing Lucas dived and it’s not his fault, he only wanted to clear the ball and do well out of enthusiasm, though now he has to live with the burden of letting the fans down while he tried sooo much during the whole game…

    It’s tragic, but we can’t abandon them, the players or Wenger. We support them no matter what, because we know they feel the same pain each time things don’t go our way.

    What? Like each one of us is better in our everyday lives? So we ‘ll lose it all again, so what? At least they had the guts to try and fail.

    Keep the faith gunners!

    • Dave says:

      Maybe Lucas took a page from Eboue cause he also dives every match he plays. Eboue was stupid to charge up to someone back like that, especially when Lucas was going away from goal.

  • island boy says:

    i,m tired so tired another wasted opportunity same crap defence panic stations arsenal always shoot themselves in the foot blame no one that,s it titles over I wish we dont qualify for champs league the only reason for wenger to wake up from his dream age catching up on him I think he getting alzheimers disease seems to can,t remember all of arsenals weakneses just blame fatigue etc unbeaten run bla bla bla bulshit but not the players what a load of wankers the coaching staff should be fired why can,t they boot the ball in the stands with 100 mins gone beats me aurevoir title his name says it all arsene wanker……………………………

  • Bouba says:

    First of all, I would like to say that if anybody here still thinks it was “bad luck”, you should find a gun and shot yourself in the head right now…!!!

    What is the point of bringing a striker over 6 feet and play him on the right!!! Can someone explain that to me!!!

    AW again had to complain about something… Now it is the time, he is the only one in the football planet who thinks it was not a penalty…. The man is totally deluded and it is getting worse as we go to the end of season…!!!

    We do not change system of play or even strategy… Nobody dares take a shot… For every cross there is nobody in the box because Van Persie drops deep…!!! Always the now boring tap tap passing with no end product…!!!

    I just hope that Chelsea does not pass us, but with our luck, inexperience, the bunch of silly and average players we have as well as the delusion of a once great manager…. Anything is possible and I won’t be surprise if we finish third…

    What a Sunday, only Arsenal can give you so much stress… I think that we are amongst the best fans in the world because we have been served “mediocrity” for 6 years and we are still 100% behind them…

    • Gunnerific says:

      To be honest, we are hardly the most long-suffering fans :) look at Liverpool :D 20 years and no league title?

      • Peter says:

        Two champions league finals though, and won one.

  • Bouba says:

    I am happy Kroenke is taking charge of the club because he is in the business of winning and he won’t take anything less…
    At this pace AW won’t last…
    He has already said that Arsenal is also a company and money, the transfer money, need to be spent…

    • montreal gooner says:

      bouba ,
      kroenke is in the business to make money , he is not in the business of winning . he will be content as liong as aw doesn’t spend his money and arsenal in the top 4 .
      for him , arsenal or the canadien , nmontreal hockey team are the same .
      he will not spend money like the russian or the sheilk ,
      the only thing we , arsenal fans , are complaining , is aw keep non performing players .

    • Dave says:

      Wenger has said that even with Kroenke in charge, he won’t change the system. Sadly more of the same from Wenger.

  • Dave says:

    There are too many pedestrians in the club. The likes of Diaby, Denilson, Almunia, Eboue, etc They are just happy to get their pay cheques every week and not bother to do any hard work to win something for the club. The penalty could have been avoided if any Arsenal player booted it out the field but we have to do it the hard way aka Arsenal way walk it out of the box. Lucas did make a meal of it but what the hell Eboue was doing when the Liverpool player was going away from goal? Another stupid player that doesn’t deserve his high wages, especially since he’s stand-in for right-back. How many years has he been to the club and yet he still does stupid things like did and diving as well. If there’s still the old Wenger left, you know the one that actually wins trophies, he will grant us no less than a victory against the spuds. I’m not accepting anything but a win, especially after the embarrassment we suffered when the spuds came to the Emirates,

    • montreal gooner says:

      I don’t understand why aw still keep non-performing , the denilson , eboue , alu ,… and there are plenty of them , he should do some garage sale .

      • Dave says:

        I know why. If Arsene sells players like Denilson, Diaby and Eboue it is proof that his transfer policy has been a failure but we know his huge ego won’t let him admit it so he’s going to stick to these useless players, while the good players leave the club.

        • montreal gooner says:

          dave ,
          all over all , his youth policy is working , without this policy , there is no wilshere , walcott , fabergas, nasri ….but together with the performing , there are too many non-performing he stick with for too long .
          now dig into a bit of detail , beside natural abilities , the performing would apply themselves corps et ame in the game , practice after practice , they don’t become the nasri and wilshere , they work very hard to become the nasri and wilshere .
          the non-performing just do their 9-to-5 and collect wage .
          the job of the coach is to differentiate the performing and the non-performing and tell the later , improve or leave . my impression is aw doen’t do this part of his job .

          • Dave says:

            I disagree regarding his youth policy. In my opinion it isn’t all that great as people make it out to be as for every Wilshere and Fabregas there’s a Diaby, Denilson, Eboue and Bendtner and what about those that were sold that weren’t good enough to be in the 1st team like Merida, Upson, Bentley, Senderos, Pennant, Lupoli, Aliadiere, Nordtveit, Jay Simpson, Larsson, Awusu-Abeyie, Justin Hoyte and I’m sure there’s more but those are the ones I can think of on top of my head. And if we develop a good young player he will eventually leave the club. Do you really think Fabregas and Nasri will stay with the club if we continue to fail to win anything season after season? The only team today that can manage to develop young players in their academy and win trophies at the same time is Barcelona. Even die-hard AKB got to admit we nowhere near as good as them.

            • montreal gooner says:

              you have a point , the youth system has a limit . the more I look at guys like nani , valencia , the more I see they are born with talents .

  • Cameron says:

    I disagree chris I feel the players were not good enough today. This is another disappointing home perfromance for me. We were not quick enough, sharp enough, clinical enough with our chances.

    I am hurt like everyone else but when we look at our team is it realy a title winning side not a challenging one. If not for the poor form of Chelsea we would very easily be in third place right now.

    Title winning sides don’t have goal less draws at home, draw three in row, lose a four goal lead to a promoted team, lose at home twice to a promoted team, conceding late at sunderland, conceding goals from very simple errors that we see over and over.

    The goal penalty we conceded was our own fault. Did we clear the ball no, did we win it no, did we take it the corner to waste time no, could we have conceded a penalty, did eboue need to be on top of luca no.

    I love Arsenal but I am very critical. Please disagree I just feel change is needed.

    • Dave says:

      I agree with everything you mention, Cameron.I love the club butI too feel change is needed and that won’t happen as long as Wenger is in charge.

      • Cameron says:

        I agree. It hurts to say I feel Wenger is a hero what he has achieved and given the club are phenominal. We have spent basically nothing over all and here we are champions league year after year. It is just frustrating to see we could be more, could push on. But where we are seems enough we want to win. I worry because as we wait for players to come through, wait for some to improve which sadly isn’t happening, Cesc, Nasri are waiting, fighting in vein. We need to buy and stop this cycle before we lose such players.

        I love the youth policy no one get me wrong. Seeing players develop into the arsenal way is amazing but sum are not good enough. Somtimes you just have to buy to fix that area and apprentice that young one to the established leader you know.

        • montreal gooner says:

          dave and cameroon , I never been in england , buy we many at work and montrealers love arsenal football for the style and for the youth .
          chelsea , man city and to a certain point man utd are like an army of mercenaries, you pay I fight , no pay no fight .
          there is a lot of credit to aw , these we all know . aw is like a caring father and he is not tough enough .aw should firm up and tell the non-performing that he and the fans are at the limit of their patience . there are already too many second chances .
          denilson , eboue , bendtner and others must understand they have played their last game .

          • Dave says:

            The likes Nasri demanding wages of £110000 a week before he extends his contract. Remember when Flamini was demanding to be paid more than £50000 a week when he was at Arsenal? Even the likes Rosicky and Diaby gets more than 50k a week, not bad for bench warmers. Even some of our players are mercenaries. So to say that our players are truly loyal to the club is not entirely true. In fact, remember Diaby saying that’s he will join the likes of Real Madrid and Barcelona if he’s offered. Dream on, Abou.

            • montreal gooner says:

              If 110K is the market price , then that is the market price .
              Get rid of the non-performers is what fans want.
              I watched the game between spurs and real and their fans are incredible , they cheer their team to the last minute .
              I think our fans are just as fantastic but they are frustrate as aw never want to listen to them , our fans don’t demand silverware -or-die , but they are just frustrate with the like of denilson . eboue , bendtner .
              We made too many cheap mistakes , the one of yesterday is not unique , arsenal has a full catalog

              • Dave says:

                As good as Nasri this season, though in the last few weeks he’s been average, Nasri isn’t worth that much, especially as his wages will be similar to the likes of David Villa and Iniesta. Nasri had one outstanding season but suddenly he thinks he’s worth just as much as those World Cup and Champion League winners? If Nasri is so loyal and not one of those mercenaries, he wouldn’t ask such ridiculously high wages.

  • Cameron says:

    I feel change is needed around the club. Until the takeover ( yet to be seen with the new owner) the boardroom’s main priority was money. Fourth spot was enough. That kind of attitude attatches itself to the club. It works its way into the fans, the players and even our manager. There is no direction, no ruthless cut and thrust, no desire to be the best.

    The manager continues to put faith in players who are not up to stanadard. I like Rosicky, I like Denilson, I like Bendtner, Arshavin was a great player. My question what do they offer now? Arshavin I can keep faith in. But realy other clubs at our level or who want to move on do not play these players. Clubs around us and lower in the table have better players. I feel they should be moved.

    Wheres the leader? Cesc leads by example. He is a very good player. But who bosses the troops. Picks them up when its tough. Fights when all seems lost. Organises the field. So on. Our captain is very very clear he wants to be at Barcelona. If I were a player that would effect me.

    My final bitch ( sorry guys) my major one actualy is the fans. I watch the games from australia and from here they look so unanimated. They hardly cheer. They don’t even mexican wave. They are not the 12th man. They only cheer in the good times. Do they pick their team up when they are down no they groan and moan. Do they make the emirates a fortress and a couldren of fire for the oppisition no. They leave the stadium with nerves, anxiety and pile pressure on our team.

  • TheIceManCometh says:

    Just a few observations, since Chris has covered most of my emotions (how quickly elation can become depression, delusion, and rage):

    1. Djourou, Koscielny, and Szescney are rock solid; whenever the defense breaks down, I have a feeling that one of those three will clean it up. And it reflects in the players; they now Wojiech isn’t going to blunder a routine save into a goal.

    2. Adam Marriner needs a new watch or an eye examine because the game should have been over not once, but twice. The first when Szescney collected the long shot/clearance. The second, right after the ball hit the wall. How does 8 minutes of extra time produce a goal in the 100th minute?

    3. The home fans are a disgrace. There I said it. It’s pathetic to whinge about “the cost of this and that” and “the team is making money from me but they have nothing to show for it.” Why is Old Trafford a fortress; why is Anfield a fortress; why is Britannia a fortress; why is the Emirates not a fortress? It lays with the fans, it isn’t church or a golf match so fricken make some bloody noise! “I want Arsene out,” “Arsenal needs to buy this player.” Moans, moans, moans. You know what Arsenal needs to get? Some fans with an actual windpipe who know how to yell, scream, banter so loud that when the team needs that final push or that little bit of confidence, they can draw it from the crowd.

    Ever heard of being the “twelfth man?” Well, the Emirates doesn’t have it, and you can see the burden it puts on the players. And for those who say the players don’t try, Wilshere was poor today even though he played like a lion (he gave the ball away like a ball boy in the early stages). Diaby played well yet received sarcastic cheers when he was subbed. When Chelsea were beating WBA the other day, you would think WBA was up 2 goals instead of down the way their fans were cheering. Blackpool the same when we played them last week. This was critical game, just like against Chelsea and Barcelona–whoever those fans were for those games need to come back, because you all were incredible for 90 minutes. I commend the away fans, even when outnumbered I can hear them, and it reflects in our success away from the Emirates (good thing we play Spurs at White Hart Lane).

    4. Wenger’s refusal to shake Daglish’s hands at the end was disappointing; it isn’t the manager’s fault (unless Marriner received a brown paper bag later) for the refs screw up. At least show some class to Daglish and then chew into the ref.

    • the guns says:

      Yes. Emirates NEEDS to be a forttress. It should be so loud, opposing players are shaken.

    • TheIceManCometh says:

      Also, i wanted to mention that Cesc doesn’t look fit at all; he looks slower than Xavi (and that is saying something). Hamstring maybe?

      • Cameron says:

        Yeah Cesc realy needs some time off to fully get fit. You can see he is trying but it just isn’t happening for him. Haha to be fair I would not have shaken Dalglish’s hand. Wenger went to he kind of made an effort.

        The fans at the emirates are terrible you think they were watching a twillight movie.

    • tommy says:

      It is sad that the fans at Emirates are quiet, but to a degree I think that is because of a few factors–the old working class fans being priced out of attending games, and the other factors are partly Wenger’s fault for not bringing in some experienced quality. That is why we have a reputation as chokers and for making dumb mistakes. If the fans that were there saw some more never say die attitude on the pitch,some more fighting spirit, then win or lose I think the fans would be more vocal. Plain and simple,Wenger’s style of team (as it is right now) the fans can’t relate to, and worse, don’t want to. It’s not the losing. It’s the way we lose. Look at teams like Bolton or Bham. Their fans are vocal because their players fight to the end. Arsenal have just become too soft. Other teams don’t fear us or even respect us. Fans want this in the team they root for, win or lose. We don’t have it right now and Wenger needs to do something about it, or the Emirates will become a tomb. I will always be an Arsenal fan but I want them to get some steel. If Wenger would just get a couple experienced players and get rid of the mediocre ones we would be well on our way. The Emirates would never be quiet for the Invincibles, even if they had never won anything, because they had amazing fighting spirit and did not make silly mistakes

      • Cameron says:

        Very good points.

      • TheIceManCometh says:

        Maybe we have different conceptions of “fighting spirit”, but for a good 25 minutes in the first half I witnessed a team pressing at Liverpool; Suarez wasn’t receiving much service bar the odd header won or the missed place pass (like from the warrior Wilshere). Second half, Arshavin tracks back to make tackles to win the ball back, this is pushing to the 80th minute. No cheering at all for those stretches of time. When the commentators say that the fans are nervous in the 70th minute (with 20 minutes plus extra time), there is definitely a problem. Why is it that there were different atmospheres for the Chelsea and Barcelona games versus yesterday? Was the team trying then? If they were (especially when Barcelona was dominating possession and nearly scored several times), I didn’t see a difference between those performances and the one yesterday except for the offense efficiency. And the whole issue with the “steel.” Who has the steel for Barcelona or Madrid, or are they so talented that it doesn’t matter? Besides Puyol. When fans go quiet for almost 30 minutes in a game, it isn’t the fighting spirit being displayed that is a concern, especially when your team is dominating and forcing the opposition to defend most of the game. And maybe Arsenal needs to create a cheap ticket section near the field so the rancorous fans can get in and make some noise.

  • Mark says:

    Stupid play by Eboue, no need to have any contact at all even though it was a dive. He continually does dumb things like that which wipe out whatever good things he does.

    The game should have ended before the first free kick, not to mention the time for the PK to be given.

    Song should never have been put on, he looks to be hobbling out there. Leave Diaby or Wilshere out there or bring someone else on.

    Probably went unnoticed, but Szczesny had a goalie punt right after we scored the PK that he didn’t even kick to midfield (this is a professional keeper for crying out loud and his distribution is still horrendous) which allowed Liverpool to put the ball right back into our penalty area that won the first free kick. Most keepers go 20-30 yards beyond midfield easily where we could have challenged the header and not allowed it to go right back down field or kick it towards the side so it can go out of bounds or something.

    • Jibzi says:

      Exactly what I noticed, and you can argue that he could have delayed his kick by 10-15 seconds and even risk a booking. I remember back then Jens Lehmann would take ages and even fake an injury to use up time. After that Song (twice I think) miskicks a clearance, gets into a tangle and commits the needless foul. It went downhill from there but if the ref isnt going to finish the game after 8mins (give or take 30secs) then why bother hold a board up with 3, 4 or 8 on it, he may as well finish it when he wants, after 1min or 20. Everyone expected (even the commentator said so) that the free-kick would be the last kick and it wasnt so. Why do some managers make substitutions after 90mins…to take up as much of the alloted injury time and they dont add on time for that, so all in all its crazy and how some of our matches have been officiated have had a negative impact on our PL chances.

  • trythisthen says:

    I was just listening to Wenger grumbling about the extra three minutes tacked on at the end. What rubbish. The fact is Liverpool had Carroll and Carragher off injured and we still couldn’t put them away. It really annoys me when a manager moans about a few minutes when he’s had 90 and still not got the job done.

  • christian says:

    We did not play Liverpool well. I’m done with the complaining about referee decisions this season. Whether the penalty was rightly or wrongly given, Eboue should have never put himself in that position to begin with.

    We are six points behind ManUre not because of poor refereeing against Liverpool. We are six points behind because of accumulated stupidity over the course of the season, particularly since the Newcastle game. Everyone said after Newcastle that those two points were going to come back and haunt us. Guess what, they are haunting us alright. Drawing Sunderland, West Brom, and Blackburn were inexcusable. They are haunting us.

    Champions fight through and pull out a win in those games. Sadly this team lacks a grizzled veteran or two who will Arsenal to victory on otherwise gloomy days like the Blackburn match. This lot just can’t grind it out. Since January, it’s all or nothing: pretty football and 3 or 4 nil domination or glum draws against the dregs. We are not young anymore! Where are the leaders who refuse to let Arsenal lose?

    I just can’t find it in my heart to get really upset at Eboue or the referee after this game. The end result (second or third in the league) was already in the cards based on our overall performance the last couple of months, not because of what happened at the Emirates on Sunday.

  • UNSPKN says:

    At what point does stubbornness become lack of caring?!?!

  • Ian says:

    I’m 19 years old so relatively a young arsenal fan. I’ve been a fan for about 5 years and a serious one for 2 years. Today hurt. I have had a massive hate for Manchester United but after today Liverpool might have climbed above them. I don’t think i’ve ever had such strong feelings of hate for a player as I had for Lucas. I understand some of you will say we played terrible throughout the season and therefore didn’t deserve it, but if we would have one today we could have produced a run that would have made us deserving champions. I feel cheated out of it by a dive. The excitement of the title race just seems to have died now. If the football gods want to right the wrongs hopefully manchester united will get upset by Newcastle and open back up the title race that i feel we were cheated out of.

  • Gun says:

    THE WHOLE TEAM REFLECTS WENGER, HIS PERSONALITY AND IDIOSYNCRISES. PERIOD. Wenger’s game tastics, plans, strategies, whatever you may call it DO NOT WORK ANYMORE. Mind you, Liverpool wasnt exactly on top form yesterday plus their injuries.

    • North Bank Bagel says:

      Couldn’t agree with you more. Disheartened to see some of the players on Twitter saying about the extra extra time. No excuses please. As soon as Liverpool put pressure on us we crumbled. Bloody embarrassing and what made it worse not one of us in that stadium was surprised it ended up like that. We have got used to us capitulating. We started off the season like this away at Sunderland and have not learnt anything from it all these months on.

      • Peter says:

        When the fourth official puts the board up that’s only a guide, the referee might have had more than 8 minutes on his watch. Also, Arsenal wasted 2 minutes farting around with the penalty, then celebrating it, so it wasn’t unusual to see the ref add more – just Wenger talking out of his skinny ass.

  • Bayonne Jean says:

    Comments:

    - We’re living in a time warp; it’s back to “Boring, Boring Arsenal”. But back then, Arsenal were boring by design — that was the game plan. Now, it’s boring because not only is there no Plan B when the opposition packs it in, there’s really no plan A to begin with. This is supposed to be the team that plays the most attractive football this side of Barca, but what we’ve seen in the last three Emirates fixtures is 0-0 vs. Sunderland of all people, 0-0 vs. Blackburn of all people, and 0-0 in regular time vs. a Liverpool side with no Gerrard, and with two reserve caliber teenagers in the backline.

    - When was the last time anyone on this side took a crack on goal from some distance (apart from Theo’s shot early on today)? Don’t you think that might just help in loosening things up? As a neutral when I watch other matches, it’s great to watch those bulge the net or the keeper make a great stretch save. Never see that at all from a side called (ironically) Gunners.
    - Could someone take a hard shot that’s aimed at anyplace other than AT the keeper? (Example: RVP shot in 85th right at Reina, Bendtner soft follow up right at Reina)
    - Could people be prepared to shoot on goal on the rare occasions when a cross finds a target, or when someone is actually in the box to receive a cross? (Example: Cesc open in the first half right in front of goal — a replica of the Wilshire miss vs, Blackburn)

    Yes, there have been defensive shortcomings, but Szczesny’s ascension this season — he seems to make everyone on the pitch more confident — and Djourou’s addition and TV return project needed long term stability. This term’s problems are much more on the attack — when you compare the front line to ManU’s Rooney, Berbatov and Chicharito, you have to say that theirs are far more incisive.

    Given all the above, still need to back the Arsenal fully, no matter what. It’s amazing, really, we are only 6 points out, when you consider ManU’s given up only 2 points at home, vs. Arsenal’s 17 (!!!!) points dropped at home. COYG!

  • KC says:

    The Title Race Is Over For Us Now

    We Need To Sell 4 Players In The Summer:

    Nicklas Bendtner – 7 – 11 million
    Andrei Arshavin – 7 – 11 million
    Denilson – 3 – 5 million
    Tomas Rosicky – 3 – 5 million

    I see that as a minimum return of 20 million pounds. The money could be used to buy a quality striker. Ramsey and Frimpong can step into the sub role that Denilson now holds. The Rosicky role on the bench will soon be filled by one of Aneke, JET, or Lansbury.

    Arshavin’s unraveling as a player this season has been a massive loss to our offensive fire-power, especially now at the biz end of things.

  • Gunnerific says:

    Another year without a trophy. As shitty as that is, I believe most of us won’t jump ship, being a fan does entitle certain privileges such as critiquing the team but 6 years without a trophy is hardly the worst thing to happen.

    Too many whiny arsenal “fans” out there. Not winning sucks, yes, but we gotta be behind the team when they are playing. It’s kinda true when other clubs supporters say we have the worst home atmosphere. Maybe that correlates to our poor home record?

  • santino says:

    Walcott: 7 – I believe Theo had a very, very good game. Made a number of dangerous runs down the right but as I said in the introduction way too many times there was no one to meet his crosses.

    there wont be no one to meet his his crosses when it bounces of the fullback for a corner or throw in..walcott was a waste yesterday

  • Gunnerrob says:

    Comical – that’s the only way I can sum up the end of this match. How is it that Arsenal can defend so well for 97 minutes, then as soon as we score we completely fall to pieces, the last 2 minutes was like watching the keystone cops.

    We can’t use the referee as an excuse either, the players have to play to the whistle, there would have been 90 secs added on for our goal celebration and 30-60 seconds for the set pieces. Yes it was a soft penalty for Eboue to give away, but as much as I want to blame the ref, it was Eboue’s lack of composure and not a mistake by Paul Mariner that cost us 2 points yesterday, it was a penalty, a stupid, stupid penalty.

    But why?

    It’s very simple, we have a great side packed with incredible talent, but this team has an Achilles heal, it cannot deal with pressure. it was pressure that caused us to through over 270 minutes of football at home without scoring a goal and it was pressure the made us give away a penally in the 100th minute of the game yesterday. Yes, the fans were quiet and extremely tense yesterday, but it’s not really surprising because this isn’t the first time we’ve thrown away a great position, the fans know what’s likely to happen, is it any wonder they’re tense.

    Wenger needs to stop blaming the referee and for once blame the players and ask, why not a single player took responsibility after RVP’s goal, why there was no organisation at the back in the last 2 minutes and why Eboue was unable to keep his head when he needed to.

    • tommy says:

      It’s true. I only remember a couple of games this season where we grabbed the lead and saw the game out comfortably. In most games we take the lead and then it’s panic stations and we hang on desperately or concede goals. An experienced and vocal captain like Alou Diarra would likely solve this problem for the most part, keeping the team calm and organized after we score. We had that somewhat with Gallas, but Wenger’s insistence on one year deals for older players and his row with Nasri drove him to Spurs, and Cesc is not a vocal or dominating presence on the pitch, RVP is too far up the pitch to organize the defence. Nasri might grow into a Zidane style captain but he is not there yet, and without an experienced defence that won’t work either. It won’t stop the blunders at the back. Wenger continues to say that “the team has many leaders” but this is silly. Do companies of soldiers go into battle with many leaders??? There needs to be one field captain, one experienced warrior/leader, and in my opinion it needs to be a DM or a CD,because that is where most of our blunders come from,and I think more confidence and solidity at the back would make the offence work the way it’s supposed to

  • Chrisd says:

    Like I said our season ended with the carling cup final. Pathetic, wenger to go

  • Kay-Bloggo says:

    Very sad developments indeed…Somehow already resigned to the fact that we are coming out second, Im less anxious of what is going on now…I still have hope we can rely on other teams to hold United but will we come out with a performance of our own when called upon? That is something we are yet to see….Please do it for us lads..we need this!

  • SomeFan says:

    @KC

    Nicklas Bendtner – 7 – 11 million
    Andrei Arshavin – 7 – 11 million

    You are happy person if you have many spare players like Arshavin. He is our main assister this season, he scored more than Bendtner, and BTW he is a midfielder. Yet I read many “fans” want him out.

  • bradman says:

    Any idea Why AW put Song , when we have Chamakh ( a striker) chasing the game in a must win situation ?
    Surely it was a case for the kitchen sink to be thrown at the liverpool defence

    Not saying he would have made the difference but surely its better to put a striker on rather than holding midfielder ?
    All but over now , I fear for Wednesday night with the way we approaching matches in the run in.
    They will be right us at us.
    Come on Boys , find a bit more and you still never know
    We might just sneak it wednesday Utd somehow lose at Toon and we are better off than we thought would be come Thursday morning !
    Wishful thinking maybe but possible
    Up the Arse!

  • Goons_with_Guns says:

    We didn’t deserve the Fabregas penalty. We didn’t deserve to win. We don’t deserve the title. End of.

  • Alex says:

    Arsenal seem to struggle with the tactics. van Persie clearly can’t score alone, and the wingers are always drifting inside, and then tehere is no room to play in the middle. In a 4-5-1 there needs to be a striker who is stong and good at shielding the ball. Chamakh should play up front, with van Persie in the Fab role. That would give Arsenal more choices, since van persie allways drops deep anyway, and then there is no one up top in Arsenal need a quick outlet. Chamakh is good in the air, and decent with the ball in his feet, if he stays and pushes the central defender on the offiside line at all times, vna persie could work around him, making clere runs, and playing in other players. Also Song should play Makalele style, staying back at all times, and Fab ins central role. That would give Arsenal a good balance between attack and defence, and Fab can drop deeper to play the playmaker role, as well as surge forward when in all out attack mode. As it is now, all 3 central midfielders are all the way up, leaving only the 2 central defenders to panic with 1 opposition striker. No balance, no tactical consistensy and no team play. Wenger needs to plan better. I don’t get why Song surges forward so much if he is supposed to be the last man standing. When Cesc leaves, Wilshere and Song are the perfect pairing in the center in a 4-4-2. They seem to undestand eachother and they borth have hight work rate.

    Anyway, they need some defencive coaching and better structure

  • aad966 says:

    how can we compete if we were to get such brutal decisions every game….

    What diaby did vs newcastle, nolan did the same to scezny and he got a yellow… ps they got a free penalty in that fixture to… 2 bad decisions one game.

    Yesterday the same thing, played 4 extra minutes than he was supposed to… gave a soft penalty…

    Vs sunderland… Arshavin was so onside… and he was called off..

    Vs sunderland we played an extra minute for no apparent reason

    we have got screwed over and over again… these are just the decisions i remember… there are many more this season i mean a whole lot more… we have lost the premier league due to horrible officiating and nothing else…

    Sad to say this but man utd were champs elect from the start of the season and Fa did its best to make sure they got the title… while on the way the showed some signs of being biased vs man utd but in the end they get more decisions out of the ref than the amt of arse my toilet seat gets!!!

  • Chris says:

    Some quick facts for those who know the “rules”:

    Cesc went down in the penalty area at 96:06.
    Robin van Persie kicked the penalty at 97:09.

    The game resumed at 98:00 after a delay of 1m3s(from the moment Cesc went down to the moment Robin kicked the penalty).

    Lucas went down at the edge of the penalty area at 98:40, well inside the added 1m3s because of the above delay.

    The free kick was taken at 100:43 after a delay of 2m3s.

    The penalty was given at 100:46, 2 minutes, 46 seconds after the game was supposed to end, but the total number of minutes spent arguing or getting ready to kick the first penalty and the free-kick is 3 minutes and 6 seconds.

    • Gunnerrob says:

      No offense, but whether you’re right or wrong, it’s just nitpicking, the majority of games are completed with inaccurate extra time and unless you religiously have a fourth official stood with a stopwatch every time the whistle is blown, this will continue to be the case, if each game were to be played strictly to 90 minutes of actual “in play” time, the average game would most likely go on for an extra 20 minutes. We didn’t lose 2 points because of the referee, we lost 2 points because we didn’t play to the whistle, the lack of composure shown giving away the free kick followed by Eboue getting over friendly with a Liverpool player in the penalty box is what cost us 2 points. Paul Mariner had a good game, credit where credit is due. Arsenal had 90 minutes to win the game and 2 mins to protect a lead, it’s absolutely gut wrenching, but we failed miserably.

      • Chris says:

        If on minute 70 you’re leading by 1-0, win a free-kick and spend 2 minutes arguing before you take it, I’m more than sure the referee will take that in consideration when assigning stoppage time in the end. I see no reason why they shouldn’t do the same when time is “wasted” in stoppage time.

  • SeanP says:

    If the score stayed 1 nil to the Arsenal, half of the friggin negative comments would not been posted. But the ref should have blown the game as soon as the ball was bouncing wide. 11 minutes later, everybody says the extra time is a minimum, so I guess now that gives the ref licence to add as much minutes as he likes so his team could score. TOTAL Rubbish.

    I dont blame Eboue, he was looking at the ball and Lucas just step in front of him and fall like a pansy. Real cheapness. Ref you should be ashamed. In addition, if Lucas did get the ball and fired it back into the box, and scored, everybody would have still blamed Eboue for not tackling the man, so you cant win.

    I would agree we should have played a 4-4-2, having two target men up front but it was not so, but they guys dominated and got a deserved penalty.

    Once the guys rip up Rottenham and Manure, and well Manure have to drop some points, we still have a good chance.

    Laters

  • Alan says:

    Wenger has too much power at Arsenal. No manager at a club with 60,000 fans in the stadium every week can ignore what other people say and just do what ever he likes. That’s fine if you keep winning trophies but Wenger has abused his position and the loyalty from the Arsenal fans for too long. It isn’t Arsene Wenger Football Club as he has come to believe.

    I’d like to see Wenger removed this summer for the club’s benefit. I believe deep down the majority of Arsenal fans, and probably many of the good players who want trophies, feel the same. Wenger keeps getting it wrong and should pay the price.

    He will never win a Champions League with his tactics yet a club like Arsenal should be aiming for that.

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