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Wenger: We failed in some areas, we will be active this summer

Written by Jeffrey on May 24, 2011 – 4:45

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Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger was not a happy man after the Gunners could only manage a draw, on Sunday, against 10-men Fulham away from home.

Speaking to Arsenal TV Online after the game, the Frenchman confessed it is disappointing to end fourth, a position they lost last week with his team fighting for first place only three weeks ago.

Asked about his plans for the summer, the Arsenal boss admitted the Gunners failed in some areas and decisions will be taken to solve these problems as he added that however the basis is strong and it is important to improve it.

Wenger concluded by admitting that the Fulham game was not the right one in which to experiment with the position of striker Robin van Persie as he was again full of praise for the travelling fans, by him described as outstanding.

After the 2-2 draw, the manager said:

Deserved or not [to end fourth] the points count, it’s disappointing because we were in a much stronger position three weeks ago, we had problems to get over the line in the end but it’s not today that we lost our positions, the weeks before.

Yes, [it was important to finish with a win]. Overall I feel that it’s not today that we lost our third spot, last week [that] is still difficult to digest but we have to take it on the chin and come back stronger next year.

We have failed in some areas, we want to rectify that but I believe that the team has given a lot this year, there’s a strong basis and we want to improve that.

We will be active and busy certainly [during the summer] and we will try to make the right decisions.

[Robin van Persie] can play second striker, behind the striker, can play up front, just wanted to try a little bit different in a classic 4-4-2 but of course it was not the right moment today.

[Fans] need to trust us because the Club is in a strong position, we have a strong basis and overall I believe that they have been outstanding, especially the away supporters.

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  • Phil23 says:

    He hasn’t lost my trust. He is completely right, take out Denilson, Rosicky, Almunia and Bendtner so far and we have a very strong squad to build on. 3 more good players and we will be looking great. Add to that Bartley, Frimpong and Miyaichi and we have the best squad in the EPL.

    • sammie says:

      u think we will be the best in the league with that? with man utd signing sneijder, chelsea signing kaka, man city signing whoever they want, tottenham and liverpool behind our back. hmm.. think again becos its will be us fighting for europa cup qualification next season. thisplayers should be a 2nd or 3rd string of a team who has ambition of winning a major trophy.

    • tommy says:

      But Wenger didn’t take them out. They would still be at the club draining wages but THEY demanded to be let go. Wenger is incapable of telling these mediocre players to go elsewhere

      • DanAust says:

        So THEY say.
        The point is they arent good enough to challenge for starts so they’ll be sold and players who are good enough will be bought in. Im not worried about Chelsea buying Kaka or Man U buying sneijder. Those players were no names once too. As long as we bring in quality. Arsene has form for buying good players at low prices. Not all of them were great but a lot were.
        Henry was £10.5m, Anelka £500k, Vieira £3.5 m, RVP £2.75m, Pires £7m, Toure £150k.

        Prices have gone up because our competition have copied our buying patterns and this has been reflected in the prices we have paid for Nasri, Vermaelen, Arshavin and Koscielny. All of whom were cheap compared to some of the prices our competition were paying for players who havent justified the money (Lescott £24, Torres £50m!!)

        Well get good players, but we wont get big name players.

        • dan says:

          Respectfully, you’re ignoring the real issues here. Wenger has not bought real quality in quite a few years now. And he brought in these players to form the core of the youth project and now they are wanting out. You apparently don’t see this as a problem for recruiting? Three ‘good’ players changes nothing.

          Top players will not come to us even if we pay 50 million, because top players want to win, they don’t care about 4th place, they don’t particularly want to be part of a youth project, and they know the difference between ‘good players’ and ‘world class players’, many Arsenal fans seemingly do not. That is why I believe there will be more players leaving than arriving and we will continue to have issues bringing in the players that we would like; the henry’s, toures, pires, bergkamps, anelkas, vieiras of the world are not as attracted to Arsenal as in years past.

          • RvP10 says:

            I am sorry Dan, BUT all the top players these days play for muni only.. what was Man City before the rich oil owners took over.. NOTHING – but they manage to attract many great players..

            So surely we can atttract any player as far as we are willing to pay their wage bill. But the problem is we can’t go over the board and pay 50 mill like chelsea and man city.. and any player that will cost us less thn 30 mill – All the arsenal fan will say the player is not good enuf coz they cost us less thn 30 mill.. There’ not many CB better thn Verminator and I dont think many gunners knew him before wenger signed him, same applies about RvP, henry,eduardo,Toure,viera and the list goes on.

            Chelsea spent alot last summer – what did they win???

            • dan says:

              Rvp, you’re still not seeing the picture. The structure of the club, it’s ‘philosophy’, reduced ambitions, dissatisfied players, a manager under increasing pressure(his own doing), these factors don’t equate to an attractive destination. City has money and ambition, but there have been quite a few players who have turned them down, look at robinho, kaka, is tevez happy. It isn’t all about money, and city’s history though far from illustrious, is to be fair, mentionable, hardly considered ‘nothing’. I think you’re thinking on these matters is rather less than well considered. In my view we need to be able to bring in some exceptional talent this summer if we are to retain our cl place.

              • tommy says:

                agreed. And it may have already happened. There is the possibility that Wenger got Squi because no one else wanted to come here. Squi himself said that he came because of Wenger. The real top players join teams like Milan and Real because of their ambition and history. Arsenal seems like they can only get French players lately, AKB’s. Wenger has created this nightmare and now he is going to have to overpay to solve it. I will believe that when I see it

        • Dave says:

          No sensible gooners are asking Wenger to spend £50 million on one player, but ask Wenger to spend players to strength the team, particularly in defense. Wenger spent £25 million for the past two seasons just on defenders alone and our defense is worst this season than last season. I see no improvements overall in this team this season and will it continue to be the same if Wenger continues what he does for the past six years, especially if the likes of Cesc and Nasri leaves.

        • tonygunner says:

          I’m not even sure we’ll get good players after last year’s go around.
          But you’re probably right about big name players. First, we’re running a business, not to win trophies. Second, what big name players would want to come here? (Unless all they are interested in is the the big paycheck).

    • Mak says:

      You forgot to take out Diaby, Squillaci, lazy Arshavi, and “always on the floor face down” Eboue.

  • Gunnerrob says:

    80%? Care to back that up with some facts? Not even on this blog, which is unusually anti-Wenger is I’m guessing anywhere near 80%, I’m sure based on talking to my mates here in England that the majority of fans are still behind Wenger, but are requiring at least a couple of important signings.

    • Chris says:

      If we are to use this particular blog as a measurement, I would say that if not 80, we are very close to 80% of readers who are not happy with Wenger.

      • Gunnerrob says:

        Unhappy or lost trust?

        • Chris says:

          Not much difference to be honest.

          Many are those who want Arsene to resign. Those who still want him to stay will always add a “but” or “provided that” to their explanation. The percentage of those who want Arsene to stay without any changes is very, very low.

          • Gunnerrob says:

            I think that was my initial point, I am not HAPPY with the way the season panned out, but I still have TRUST in Wenger to sort this crap out. I’ve already stated as have the vast majority of fans that we are in desperate need of some new experienced signings. But that’s a long way away from saying that Wenger needs to resign.

            • Chris says:

              And what makes you think that he will change this summer, if I may ask?

              Because that one is not happy with our season and that we need experience is something I’ve been reading for the last three seasons.

              Or if I am to rephrase, how many times Arsene has to fail to finally say it’s time for a change? For the record, it was last season for me.

              • Gunnerrob says:

                ok, I’ll get your last point out the way first, failure is Birmingham city getting relegated, failure is Spurs spending £250,000,000 in the last two seasons and not making the champions league. Finishing 4th is disappointing and frustrating, but not failure.

                Why do I think Wenger will spend this season when he didn’t overly spend over the past 5 seasons?

                Because, we have now got to a crossroads with the debt management at the club where the £20 million required to service the loans taken out on the Emirates project is now (for the first time) a lesser amount than the increase in revenue created because of the Emirates stadium, in other words we’re above the break even point, the club has spent big over the past : seasons paying off the capital of the loans £200 million in the last two seasons alone. Ensuring a secure future for the club.

                Also, don’t discount the Stan factor, ticket prices have increased by 6.5% for next season. Stan will no doubt be keen to win over the fans by getting out the cheque book.

                Finally, Wenger has boldly stuck with his youth policy, part of it has worked like a dream, Cesc, RVP, Wilshire, Nasri, Szczesny, Djourou, Song and some of the players have let Wenger and the club down, these are players with skill but seem to lack a winning mentality Diaby, Denilson, Vela, maybe Bendtner (although he does try) As you can see in a time of low funds available, Wenger has unearthed several world class talents. This strategy has been a means to an end, now we have the nucleus of a very good team and wer’e financially stable. Wenger will now know it’s time to ship out the failures and bring in a couple of new youth and a couple of experienced players to take us to the next level.

                If we don’t get a quality striker and an experienced CB, then I’ll be reluctantly siding with the naysayers and doom merchants myself, hopefully it won’t come to that because I can’t think of a single malternative anager that could improve AFC without a massive cash hand out.

                • Chris says:

                  No, failure means not achieving your objectives and unless our objective was to end in the top four, then we failed to achieve them.

                  You talk about debts and loans. Why? Wasn’t our squad as strong as Manchester United’s this season? Then why talk about debts and loans when we and them started the season on the same line?

                  Also, if you believe that Samir Nasri, Johan Djourou and Alex Song succeeded like a “dream” I’m afraid you’re way too easily pleased because Samir had a fantastic first half of the season(the only one in three years) and then vanished, Johan showed that he still has a long way to do and what I said about Samir applies for Alex.

                  To conclude, the fact that you’re blaming Carlos Vela for Wenger’s failure, one who started three Premier League games at Arsenal says a lot. Denilson I agree, he was the one who played most games for us in 2008, Abou Diaby also but then again, you have to give a player a chance for him to let you down and unless I’m wrong it was Arsene who gave it to them.

                  I’m sure last season you were saying if we don’t get a quality goalkeeper and an experienced CB, then I’ll be reluctantly siding with the naysayers and doom merchants myself.

                  • Gunnerrob says:

                    Sorry Chris, I feel your frustration with the way this season’s gone but you’re being a tad idealistic if there is no margin for error in your expected objectives of the team, our main objective would have been to win all the competitions we entered and our minimum objective would have been to qualify for the champion’s league, we have a good chance of achieving the latter. Like I said it’s disappointing and frustrating the way we collapsed at the end of the season, but failure? no of course not, (certain players failed though) but we certainly need a bit more mental toughness and the sooner we ship out the mentally weak the better. The sooner we get rid of Rossicky, Almunia, Diaby, Denilson, Eboue, probably Bendtner and yes your ol’ favourite Vela (FYI he has a goal to game ratio of less than 0.12, even flop Bendtner has a ratio of over 0.3 and he’s played against much tougher opposition, I know he’s got a big pearly white smile and looks like a fresh faced kid, but he’s 22 now and whenever he’s been given a chance he’s fluffed his lines, except a handful of goals in the carling cup, skilful yes, ruthless never! (or hardly ever), once he leaves Arsenal he’ll fade into oblivion he reminds me of Reyes.) and please don’t give me the old line that Wenger never gave him a chance, he had plenty of reserve games and couldn’t motivate himself to play well in those, being a professional footballer is all about proving yourself, if you’re good enough you’ll get picked., it’s a shame when player with potential don’t cut it, I would have sworn Denilson and Diaby would both have developed into great players, but sometimes players just don’t make the step up, no manager in the world can predict for sure a player will thrive. Apart from my analysis on Vela, the above comments pretty much mirror your views of just a month or two ago. You were talking too about just adding a couple of key players “or minor tweaks as you put it”. So I don’t think our views differ so much, i’ve probably just calmed down a bit quicker than you. But we both love this club, I genuinely for the life of me can’t see how getting rid of Wenger would help? firstly there’d be a mass exodus, then who exactly is out there who can do a better job than Wenger on a 20 percent of the resources of Man City and Chelsea? If you were to be totally honest, you’d see that fourth with our budget is about right, if we’d achieved more then we’d have over achieved. What’s annoying is the way we were in such a great position but couldn’t see it through to the finishing line.

                    Yes I believe we have a squad of players equal to any other squad in England, the problem at this moment in time is maybe the players don’t believe it (a leader on the pitch might help here, but at some point the players have to take responsibility and just do it). When you play for a team that wins year in year out it becomes an expectation,the fear factor is less, remember Man united when ferguson took over in the 80’s, he was one match away from the sack after years of nearly winning something, once they got that elusive FA cup they never looked back got the winning habit and now they just expect to win, it’s natural to them (conversely look a Liverpool, the most successful English club, couldn’t stop winning in the 70’s and 80’s, but once you have a barren spell it’s tough to find that winning mentality 1990 since they last won the title. I’m really not trying to make excuses for the players, they need to be stronger, we are in need of a leader on the pitch who can give a battle cry before every match. We will need a couple of experienced players and a large slice of luck next season to improve on our fourth position. Liverpool, Tottenham, Man United, Man City, and Chelsea all think they are good enough for a title run, so even if we play better than this season there is still no guarantee. Once we win something, anything! it will be a big weight off our shoulders then we can move forward, but winning is not an easy thing, certainly not in this league.

                    With regard to your last paragraph, no I didn’t say that.

                    To conclude

                    Keep Wenger, a proven striker, a leader, and an experienced centre back and to keep hold of Cesc and Nasri. Then I’ll be as happy as Larry. And Larry is one happy fella!

                  • Chris says:

                    According to Arsene this is the best team he ever had and he was 100% convinced that we would win the title. We didn’t, big or small, it is a failure.

                    If you start to do something and you fail to achieve it, it is a failure, plain and simple.

                    Your Carlos Vela arguments are as flawed as Arsene Wenger’s excuses. His goals/minute ratio is impressive, stop considering 10 minutes on the pitch as a full game, people will make fun of you if you do.

                    What chances was he given? Name them. The reserves? You must be kidding me right. Theo Walcott was given a chance at Arsenal. Andrey Arshavin was given a chance. Playing alongside Cesc Fabregas and Robin van Persie.

                    Not Carlos Vela. With the reserves. You don’t call 0+4 appearances this season, 1+10 the one before and 2+12 the one before chances, don’t be ridiculous please.

                    One who started 3, yes, THREE, Premier League games doesn’t deserve to be held responsible for his manager’s failures. Give him 10 straight games with the first team alongside Cesc and then we’ll talk.

                    I’m as calm as I can be and I stand by my statement that we need minor tweaks, minor tweaks that Arsene will never make and that is why I want him changed and wanted him changed at the end of last season. Can’t say I was wrong in wanting so last season, no?

                    And why do you want to keep him?

                    - Because players would leave. Well thank you very much, we’re keeping him because he has a life insurance with the players.

                    - There is nobody as capable as he is. Thank you very much, you want to keep him because you’re scared to gamble.

                    Give this squad to Jose Mourinho and let’s see where he ends.

                    And please stop blaming our financial status. You contradicted your own self in saying “we have a squad of players equal to any other squad in England” so don’t blame the money, blame who should be blamed.

                • Dave says:

                  Honestly, I doubt Wenger is going to spend on the quality players we need, it’s going to be the same usual youngsters (I believe a kid from Southampton for 10 million was already agreed between the two clubs) and unknown players maybe from the French League. For the past two seasons, Wenger spend 25 million on defenders alone and our defending haven’t improved, as we shipped in more goals this season than the last. If Wenger doesn’t spend on the quality and experience CB we need, it’s going to be more of the same as Wenger doesn’t drill the team on how to defend, just ask former Arsenal defenders. I seem to remember every summer the board says Wenger have money to spend, but every season he wants to stick to his transfer policy like why stick to clown like Almunia for first choice keeper for so long? With Kronke reportedly willingly to give Wenger 40 million this summer, we’ll just have to wait and see if going to spend on the players we need or stubbornly continues to do what he’s been doing for the past six summers.

                  I don’t really see how anyone thinks Wenger’s youth policy is all that great for the past six years. As for every Wilshere and Fabregas, we get duds like Denilson, Diaby, Vela, Eboue, Bendtner and what about the youngsters that weren’t good enough to get a starting place in the team like Justin Hoyte, Larsson, Merida, Bentley, Upson, Senderos, Pennant, Traore, Lupoli, Aliadiere, Awusu-Abeyie, Jay Simpson and Nordtveit and others I forget. Seems in recent years, the club brings in more mediocre youngsters than actual quality players like your Fabregas and Wilshere.

                  • Gunnerrob says:

                    Pennant, cole, Anelka, Sidwell. You forgot to mention them if you’re including Bentley, they’re all playing first team Footy in the premier league.

                  • Dave says:

                    The likes of Pennant, Bentley and Sidwell were good enough for other teams but not for Arsenal. If the youth policy is all that great it will create more quality players for OUR club and not the likes of Stoke, Fulham and clubs in the Championship.

                • Dave says:

                  Also, I can’t believe people are comparing Arsenal to the likes of Birmingham, even with their CC win, like we should be happy that our club weren’t relegated like them. I put the club in higher standards that we should be challenging the likes of Man Utd and chelski.

              • Dave says:

                Is there another Chris in thegunninghawk site? Cause I seem to remember that you mentioned the team just need “minor tweaks”, now you’re asking for a change.

                • Gunnerrob says:

                  Dear oh Dear Chris, talk about reading the bits that suit you. you’re taking this personally, which is not great, but anyway to defend myself against your unnecessary slurs (I thought we could have a balanced discussion, apparently not) career stats Carlos Vela since 2006, competitive matches started 71, match brought on a substitute 65, total goals 24. So even if you ignore the 65 matches he came on as sub it’s still a 1 in 3 strike rate, if you count all 136 competitive matches it’s 0.12. I know you want the world to agree with you on Carlos Vela, but the truth is he just ain’t that good chief.

                  So let’s get this clear, you want Carlos Vela to have a proper chance in the first team (even though he’s shown nothing for 3 seasons, not even West Brom could justify the gamble). The problem is not his terrible strike rate, but his mental attitude, he’ll faithfully score the 4rd goal with a pretty chip to sew up a match, but have you ever seen him score a vital first goal against a tough opponent when real mental application is required? rarely if ever, I have no memory of such an occasion

                  You want to take a “gamble” with the future of the club and get shot of Wenger, well that’s just brilliant, I’ve followed Arsenal for nearly forty years and I’d like to think they’ll still be around in another forty years at the top of the table, not if you’ve got anything to do with it.

                  In hindsight a couple of extra experienced players at the beginning of last season would have helped especially after losing Vermaelen, not everyone is as fortunate as you Chris, we don’t all have a science degree in Hindsight and a crystal ball, maybe you should have forced a meeting with Wenger. If I remember correctly, Wenger was looking for new players last season but got priced out on a couple of occasions. But you believe what you want to if it makes you feel better.

                  And Why do I want to keep him?

                  1) He single handedly turned a dull boring team who were mid table playing long ball football and going nowhere into a fluent progressive team that play football I want to pay money to see.
                  2) He rejuvenated players that were finished before his arrival into winners, yes I’m talking about serial drug takers and alcoholics Ray parlour, Tony Adams, and Paul Merson.

                  3) He blended them with youthful new talent Vieira and Anelka and within his first full season won the double.

                  4) He went on to raise the standard of the club to even higher levels by bringing in Henry, Overmars Petit, Lyngberg to win two more titles and another double.

                  5) On top of this he created the untouchables that went a mesmeric whole season unbeaten, never done before or since. He did it with his own defence, not an inherited one, we shipped in less goals in that season than in any season with the old guard of Adams and co. And to top that off we even scored over 90 goals.

                  6) He did all that in the face of the fact that Man United had a huge financial monopoly on the premiership. £30 million Rio , Veron.

                  7) Wenger is a clever man, he knew that in order to ensure the future of the club he would need to get closer to Man Uniteds financial strength. Here is Highbury with 38000 capacity and unit just built an extension to 66,000. The future was looking bleak

                  8) Calculated gamble, bigger stadium, more revenue, but short term sacrifice, and when I say short term I mean 5-7 years. for this period little money available for transfer, The gamble was to keep the short sighted fans like you Chris quiet for 5 years, find a balance between creating a lasting legacy and a competitive side but perhaps some compromises would occur.

                  9) We come out of this period of financial pressure and now money is made available for purchases, but not stupid money, we’re never going to spend £35,000,000 on Andy Carrol or £50,000,000 for Torres, but maybe a couple of quality £15,000,000 players.

                  10) Wenger has shown on several occasions that he is a winner, and with nothing but football to occupy his mind in the future, sooner rather than later we’ll start winning again. Albeit in a much tougher environment, Man City, Chelsea, Liverpool, Man United, Tottenham all want to win as well

                  11) I don’t want Mourinho coming within 1 mile of my club thank you very much, that Portuguese peacock is nothing but a self styled glory hunter, and his team are boring to watch. Rather watch Real over Barca? or Chelsea over United? not a chance.

                  p.s I didn’t contradict myself 1 bit, you just choose not to read that paragraph in it’s entirety.

                  Chris, you can’t take it when people disagree with you, my opinion is that Vela is not good enough to lace RVP’s boots, that opinion is based on hard facts , my opinion is that Wenger is the best thing that ever happened at Arsenal football club, he only comes second to Fergy in terms of achievement in England in the modern era and all without wheel barrow loads of pound note.

                  You carry on with you reality distortion field when it comes to players like Vela, nobody else i know is singing his praises, I think you’re in a very small minority there. And if you seriously want to ship out Wenger after all he has done and continues to do, so a short termist like Mourinho can waltz in and take all the glory from Wenger who has laid all the foundations at the club frankly makes you go down in my estimation.

                  • Chris says:

                    The problem is not his terrible strike rate, but his mental attitude, he’ll faithfully score the 4rd goal with a pretty chip to sew up a match, but have you ever seen him score a vital first goal against a tough opponent when real mental application is required? rarely if ever, I have no memory of such an occasion

                    And then you get all upset because – in a friendly way make no mistake – I ask you to get your facts straight or else people will make fun of you. He scored not one, but TWO, important goals for WBA, coming on as a sub to rescue a point against Stoke first and Wolves then, helping them getting two crucial points to avoid relegation.

                    But maybe, for you, there was no pressure there, so no “real mental application”. Luckily you didn’t say he’s no good against physical sides.

                    Also it would be nice to know where you’re getting your stats from because in my book Carlos started 19 games for Arsenal.

                    Do you know how many starts Theo Walcott has? 100. In more than 50 he did nothing. Do you want the Club to get rid of him as well? Take your Carlos Vela stats and see how many minutes he played since he arrived in England and how many goals he scored. Then we’ll talk.

                    In reply to your Wenger praise:

                    1) Years ago. We are now a predictable side with no winning mentality no-one is scared to play against, not even Huddersfield Town.

                    2) Years ago.

                    3) Years ago.

                    4) Years ago.

                    5) Years ago.

                    6) Years ago.

                    7) Years ago.

                    8) 5-7 years? I’d say the team was strong enough to win something already two years ago.

                    9) Who said we need to spend 100m to be successful? Typical Wenger lie.

                    10) A winner? By saying that the attitude of the players has been fantastic and amazing this season?

                    11) Of course, let’s not bring someone with a winning mentality, it will kill us.

                    I never asked you to say why Arsene is the Club’s most successful and important manager, something we both agree on. I asked you why you want him for the future. The fact that 7/11 of your list is about the past means a lot.

                    PS: “reality distortion field”, “science degree in Hindsight and a crystal ball”, is this what a balanced discussion includes?

                  • tonygunner says:

                    gunnerrob/ chris/ dave/ whoever? do you think we’ve got time to read these long blogs? Keep it brief or get off.

                  • Chris says:

                    Get off what? :)

                  • tonygunner says:

                    How many years of winning nothing will it take for you to decide that AW is no longer the right mgr. for the club. He was great until 2004. In those early years I would have agreed with you. His last chance is what happens this summer and then next season.
                    Look at Fergie in comparison. 20 years and still a winner

                  • vantheman says:

                    I don’t think Carlos Vela has what it takes. If he was good, he would have succeeded at WEst Brom.

                  • Chris says:

                    Define succeeded.

                    He scored two vital goals and delivered at least three important assists during his spell there.

                  • Skip says:

                    Not to pile on or anything cris, but I have to say that I love the gunning hawk and I read it daily. It is my favorite arsenal site hands down. With that said I find your man love with vela a bit annoying. The guy just isn’t that good. I almost always agree with all your ratings and valuations of players but I just don’t come even close to seeing eye to eye with you on this one. The guy just doesn’t seem to have the desire or skill to be a first teamer at the arsenal. It doesn’t matter if you consider him a striker or a winger, he just isn’t that good.

                  • Dave says:

                    Why just single Mourinho to replace Wenger, what about the likes of Frank Fijkaard, Andre Villas-Boas and Pep Guardiola who said he could leave next season?

                  • Dave says:

                    Oops, I meant Frank Rijkaard. I could also name Guss Hiddink but looks like he’s going to chelksi.

    • tonygunner says:

      Yes rob, this summer is “Last Chance Saloon” for AW or your majority of fans will become a distinct minority.

  • tonygunner says:

    Dead right gunnerwong! He must change course or go. Pretty football with no end product is as useless as lousy football and no goals scored. Particularly when we’ve got no defence. I would love him to surprise us by paying the going price for Benzema and maybe Jakielka at the back, but his track record suggests he will go on the cheap and we’ll be f—– again next season.

  • Simmer 10 says:

    Sure you will!?

  • GoonerForLife says:

    I can honestly say I don’t trust a word Wenger says anymore, too many lies and disappointments recently I’m afraid. Only his actions can regain the fans trust, I think we heard enough talking for awhile.

  • cin says:

    “Come back stronger next year”
    How arsene…. U will come back with same stronger team.

    We know that, u r not going to do anything. U will come with same team without Cesc.

    We are not going to trust u anyway.

    We trusted u in six years. And u have not done anything for fans… U r a bloody profit making Manager. May be u r doing right job for profit making club. U do that…… We know we can’t do much……..

    And plz we beg u, don’t give more expectations for fans……………

  • tommy says:

    Wenger gets what he pays for. Only one out of ten of these 6 million pound bargains he picks up will be world class. That’s approx 60 million pounds for one world class player, and the other nine sitting on the bench or out on loan draining the club’s wages. And Wenger says he can’t spend 50 million on a player. He already has. Please no more “potential.” Spend the damned 30 million and get someone like Van Bommel who will not accept losing

    • arvind says:

      great point Tommy!

      • DanAust says:

        The difference is those 9 players can be sold for around the same as what we paid for them. Im sure Chelsea thought “spend big once and we are sorted” when they spent 50m on Torres. By buying 4-5 players at around 10m you spread the risk and maintain there resale value even if they dont improve, rather than putting all your eggs in one basket. What happens if or when torres gets cut down and is out of half a season? Spend another 50m. What if he doesnt find form? Sell him for less then half what you paid? Whose better off now after the Torres sale, Liverpool (with Suarez and Carroll) or Chelsea?

        Dont get me wrong I want to see Arsene loosen the purse strings but I think spending huge money on one player is a joke. I agree that Arsene must be more ruthless with those that dont make the grade though.

        • Dave says:

          Who is asking Wenger to spend 50 million on one player? I see gooners asking Wenger is spend money on much needed quality and experienced CB who cost less than 20 million. Buying unknown defenders from the French League like he did this season, hasn’t exactly worked out.

          • DanAust says:

            The guy above says spend 30m and get a Van Bommell and I was using the Torres situation as an example of spending big being fraught with danger. He also suggested that Wenger spends 50m on crap players, but thats not accurate due to their resale value. You’ll notice that I said “I want to see Arsene loosen the purse strings”. I’d love to see him buy a few quality 10-15m rated players, like he did with Vermaelen, Nasri and Arshavin. I have no problem with Wenger buying an unknowns like Kosceilny too. The mistake was letting experienced players like Gallas (regardless of the personality clash) and Sol leave for free and then going out and paying a largish fee for a old shit CB like squillaci who adds nothing.

            • Dave says:

              Okay, let me rephrase, what sensible gooner wants Wenger to spend 50 million on one player? Still even with the money to spend, I bet Wenger will spend it on youngsters and unknown players in the French League, as he’ll never change.

  • Salim says:

    It is a simple, u dont desive to trust Arsene because u are not the one u desive it, how u can claiming some is not belong to u is urs? That is show u are more then just stu…d monkey.
    “IN ARSENSE WE TRUST” we believe, and that it is:
    1) He is the best maneger in the world.
    2) He is the one to have the final say for the players.
    We know those who talk against him they are not real Arsenal fans and some they not Arsenal fans at all. We ask them pls go back where u belong.

    • A.M says:

      What a nutjob you are

    • David says:

      Agreed in Wenger we trust

    • Dave says:

      Typical AKB here. Just because some fans expect the club to have higher standards and challenging Man Utd and chelski, they are considered “not Arsenal fans”. Arsenal is the 3rd most successful club in England and 5th richest club in Europe, I expect us to do better than this season.

    • tonygunner says:

      Salim are you living on another planet? True Arsenal fans should be the toughest critics when the results are unacceptable as thay have been for the past 6 years under
      Mr. Wenger. Of course, if you have been on Mars for the past 6 years,I fully understand your comments.

  • anjar says:

    Firstly no more of that unknown french defenders from ligue 1 or lower ligue, cant take risk anymore + will take few games for them to adapt, we can’t affordd to drop silly points anymore, specially when man u/ man city/chelsea/liverpool going to be even stronger. If u can’t afford Samba or Cahill, would rather after Scott Dann or Roger Johnson,pl experience and no nonsense cb, they don’t take prisoner when they tackle unlike djourou or squillaci. Also they will come cheap!

  • Usman says:

    Salim,be real…Wenger best manager?isn’t it dreaming .Where do you put Fergie?certainly he has lost the trust of the majority of fans. 6 yrs is not a joke.he must go somewhere and do his experiments.no more time for kids at Arsenal.fans need trophies.wake up Wenger and sign good players,lest you wil play in empty emirates next season

  • Joshua says:

    I agree wit all ur opinion we nid change n improvement nt jst talking mr wenger

  • mano'gunner says:

    Arsenal finished fourth because Wenger was happy with fourth.
    Remember when Arsenal were second and he kept saying we’re top four and should be satisfied and all that jazz. It’ll probably be the same again next year.

    “Would anybody have predicted that we are where we are, in front of Chelsea and Man City and fighting for the championship? Nobody. Nobody in England believed we could even fight for the top four. The fact we are in the position we are in, I think, deserves a lot of credit.
    We should be proud of what we did until now. So let people talk and let us do the job. We still have [the steel and mental strength]. I don’t question that.”
    -Wenger when Arsenal were 2nd

    • tonygunner says:

      Mano: You’re right about us finishing higher than what the critics predicted last August. But in the end we choked when we had the chance of proving them completely wrong.
      Also I was tired of hearing AW’s “resilience and mental strength” broken record statements in every press conference for many past years. Notice he hasn’t said that crap for quite a while. Wonder why? Dah.

  • damyval says:

    all arsenal need is roger johnson, samba,benzima, charley adams parker or a very good defensive midfeilder and all will be sorted out with miyachi coming in also

  • Al says:

    BUY, or bye bye.

  • Ben says:

    Better give us positive results or resign

  • Al says:

    Goals conceded in the past four seasons:

    2007/2008 – 31
    2008/2009 – 37
    2009/2010 – 41
    2010/2011 – 43

    Anyone else notice a worrying pattern here? Yep, that’s right, we are getting *worse* at the back. And that’s with Wenger spending millions on third rate players like Koscielny and Squillaci while refusing to bring in a top-class goalkeeper.

    Whoever is still blindly sticking by Wenger is simply delusional. He won’t sign the right players and we will be demanding his head again next summer after another frustrating season.

    • Fonz678 says:

      Thats a great stat btw. It should be constantly shown to Wenger and the defence department from here on.

      • tonygunner says:

        As if they don’t know already.

    • Gunnerrob says:

      We need to improve our defending overall, especially at set plays. What your stats don’t allow for is the small matter that this season we had essentially a brand new defence. Kosielny, Squillaci, Djourou (he’s been out for over a year),Szczesny. we lost Gallas and Vermaelen as well, no matter what quality you bring in, it takes time for defenders to bed in and play like it’s second nature. Yes we need to improve our defending overall, we need a new Experienced centre back, but the group of Vermaelen,Kosielny, Djourou and Szczesny will definitely improve as a group next season, so long as we can keep hold of them and they remain injury free. Stats on the other hand can be interpreted in any way you wish.

      • A.M says:

        So whose mistake is that Gunnerrob? Letting all your players leave just like that? Its Arsene’s isnt it? He let Kolo leave because of a rift with captain nutjob Gallas. Kolo who has given everything when he plays for the club. Yes even when he wasnt performing that well due to malaria, Arsene could have motivated him which he clearly cant. Then he let Gallas leave like that, and before him Campbell. So he just lets everyone who wants to leave just leave without putting up a fight to keep him. And then he keeps reshuffling at the back for what? So where is the damn continuity? And when was the last time the club churned out proper defenders since the quartet of England? At the end of the day, its all down to one mans mistake, and his name is Arsene Wenger. He has literally let all his experienced players just leave without a fight. Any player wants to feel wanted at a club, and the way he has treated his experienced players are a disgrace, by just offering them 1 year rolling contract when he spoils his kids with fat salaries. How does that make sense? And he’s an economist at that which is the biggest joke.

        • Gunnerrob says:

          Gallas all our players

          So you’re saying it was Wenger’s fault that two players had a rift?

          Gallas left because he was on a Bosman, and only a club as desperate as Tottenham would pay his wages.

          Players past 30 do statistically get injured more often and they have statistically less stamina, so yes the Economist in Wenger would have told him what to do.

          We dont need burnt out 30+ year olds, we do however need a couple of quality 25-27 year olds.

          • Dave says:

            Still haven’t asked his question on why did Wenger choose Gallas over Toure? Kolo wanted to leave because of Gallas who is over 30 years old and eventually let go by Wenger not long after Kolo left. It’s one of his growing transfer blunders like letting Diarra go mid-summer before Flamini left the following summer.

      • Dave says:

        We keep conceding because Wenger doesn’t drill the team to defend set-pieces and doesn’t bring in enough players who dominates in the air. Even a stern pro-Wenger supporter have to put some blame on Arsene on the team’s inability to deal with set-pieces, which have been a problems for years now.

  • JackArsenalBorehanwood says:

    Every year we get Arsenal fans saying we will finish behind Tottenham etc. SHUT UP!! If our support was a lot better and we encouraged instead of always moaning we could instil belief in our players who may not be as gifted as Cesc, Nasri and Van Persie. Why not always cheer EVERY player the same as each other? Chant every players name the same! The away support have got it spot on yet our home support is by far the worst in England, middle class families just used to getting everything they want and only supported Arsenal due to the Wenger era yet they are the people looking to get rid of our manager! Bring in 3 GOOD players and we are right back up there!! Let’s back the team whether we win, draw or lose and we may see the same success united fans are seeing!

    • dan says:

      Blaming the support? Seven years with a project as predictable and a wet London winter is a long time and the purported fruits of the project simply want to leave. Not on, times up. And no, I don’t believe wenger has it in him to turn things around.

  • Mr opinion says:

    Sign Scott Dann

  • tonygunner says:

    Apart from the new signings we need to see at the club, it would show some respect to the fans if they will reveal details about the coaching staff and the obvious necessary changes that are required.

    Who is responsible for defence coaching? Maybe somebody on this site can tell me.

    The last I remember hearing about was Martin Keown,but that was a few seasons back.What we need is players like him who showed the true passion of Arsenal. There are very few players in the squad at the moment who have earned the right to wear the shirt.

    • Paddy O'Neill says:

      I though Pat Rice was responsible for defensive coaching. If he is I don’t know why because he was never a very good defender.

  • tonygunner says:

    Another thought about a defence coach. I forgot we have Steve Bould on staff coaching the U-18’s.
    Give him a promotion Arsene.
    He was part of the great back 4 when we had the best defence in football.

  • Simon says:

    FACTS…

    Every January transfer window we say that signing a world class Centre back will win us trophy’s. We never do this and always fall apart second half of the season. If Wenger now goes ahead and signs one pre-season it shows that he’s acted 4 years too late. He’s accepted that he should have signed one ages ago and that the current crop aren’t good enough.

    FACT is Arsenal need to sign 2 world class CBs and not Squillaci type donkeys. Vermaelen’s a left back (he played there for Ajax). If we sort out the defence (finally) we’ll win things. There’s nothing wrong with the rest of the team.

    All Wenger needs to do is take care of this and everyone will love him again!

    • Paddy O'Neill says:

      I don’t think Wenger has the money but he doesn’t want to come out and say this. He’s too well in with Kroenke. I read in the paper today that all is not well with Kroenke and Usmanov – they’re not speaking apparently. A wonderfully run club.

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