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Arsenal vs Liverpool, 0-2: Full time analysis and player ratings

Written by Chris on August 20, 2011 – 21:15

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Despite a solid defensive performance at the Emirates, Arsenal conceded their first goals of the season as they went down against Kenny Dalglish’s Liverpool and will next week face Manchester United without Alex Song and Emmanuel Frimpong in midfield.

I wanted to start by saying that the attitude of the lads was brilliant as they fought from the first until the very last minute of the game but I’m afraid heart and fighting spirit alone are not enough. What is funny and frustrating at the same time is that it seems we solved our defensive problems but we are now facing problems in midfield and in the final third.

After today’s game, many are saying and will say that we need new signings as we struggle way too much in the final third, we struggle way too much when we are to deliver the final ball but my reply is that Dennis Bergkamp, in April 2010, was already pointing this out when he said:

“Arsenal always have more possession of the ball than the opponent. You don’t see often a bad pass in the midfield. But in the final third, often it’s a bad decision. That’s so strange. They just need to be able to finish it off. You have to shoot, to want to score goals no matter how. Just score that goal! You can’t be afraid to miss.”

That was more than four months ago. How many top-class crosses did Carl Jenkinson deliver this afternoon? Three, four, I lost count at one stage, and who was there to meet them in the penalty box or on the edge? Nobody.

As they say, you just don’t see a man drowning and wait until the very last second to bring him ashore. But unfortunately this is just what Arsene Wenger and his team have done, problems that we saw way back in April are yet to be addressed and with ten days to go for the summer transfer window to shut down, I find it hard to believe that they will find the “quality” they have been talking about over the last few weeks.

In all honesty, I am bewildered by Arsene’s optimism when he says that we have a big squad, that “we have not lost so many players” and that “number-wise we should be capable to do well”.

Today we went out there with Emmanuel Frimpong, Carl Jenkinson and Ignasi Miquel, later on joined by Henri Lansbury, who have no or very little Premier League experience. Make no mistake, I’m not saying they didn’t do well, far from that, I’m just saying that it is hard to believe the “big squad” statement when these four players are enjoying their first taste of top-level football.

As for Emmanuel, to quote one of our forum members, his situation was poorly managed. A young steely player who gets a yellow card early in the game, who is still making tough challenges shouldn’t be on the pitch at the 70-minute mark. He played well, but should have been substituted shortly after the half.

I would go on and also question Arsene Wenger’s half-time team talk. In less than a week, THREE players were sent off(or charged after the game) as a clear demonstration that nothing, absolutely nothing is being done to turn these kids into men, to help them understand that you will not get away with nasty tackles and that you cannot point your finger, insult or shout at the referee or fourth official and expect the officials not to take action.

Maybe he’s just telling them, “It’s OK son, you’re just a victim of your inexperience”. In the meantime we will face Manchester United, away from home, without our regular defensive midfielders.

What comes next is a long and painful week of football for Arsenal Football Club. With Udinese coming up and Manchester United waiting at Old Trafford we could find ourselves out of two competitions after only two weeks of football. Or maybe not, maybe we will bounce back, reach the Group Stage of Europe’s most prestigious competition and add an unexpected win against Alex Ferguson’s men in the weekend. As it is, only time will tell.

As always, whether you agree with my ratings or not, submit your own at Arsenal Interactive and make sure to share them on Twitter and Facebook.

Match Video Highlights

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Player Ratings

Szczesny: 8 – Good save in the 19th minute of the game to deny Andrew Carroll, made a brilliant save in the 73rd minute of the game to keep the score goalless and again made a top class save, this time to deny Stewart Downing to again keep a clean sheet. Unfortunately he was unlucky to concede in the last part of the game.

Vermaelen: 9,5 – According to my notes he cleared the danger – many times with his head – in the following minutes: 33, 40, 52, 65, 76 and 78, no wonder Andrew Carroll had a “quiet” game. Had he scored in the 76th minute after that brilliant run I would have purchased his jersey without hesitation. Phenomenal.

Koscielny: No Vote – For obvious reasons.

Sagna: 7,5 – Considering he was playing out of position, I must say that Bacary did well with his only mistake coming in the 61st minute when he gifted the ball to Dirk Kuyt who went on to win a corner.

Jenkinson: 6,5 – Gave away possession in the early stages of the game but bounced back well as he was solid at the back and as said delivered a number of very good crosses when we pushed forward.

Frimpong: 7 – Top class performance overshadowed by his eagerness to impress and the red card as a result. I love Emmanuel but his red made Liverpool’s task easier and in fact they went on to win the game. As said in the introduction, someone is to speak to this young man and help him mature this aspect of his game.

Ramsey: 4,5 – Slow, way too slow. I repeat, it hurts as I so much wanted Aaron to feature two years ago but I have to admit that he’s way too slow and his vision cannot, at least for now, be compared to that of the one and only Cesc.

Nasri: 6,5 – The only one who went close to score. Fantastic run in the 34th minute of the game with his effort just wide and more good work in the 46th as he beat his man with his shot flying high.

Arshavin: 4 – Started his game by completely mishitting a half chance as he went on to make at least six schoolboy errors in the match.

Walcott: 4 – Search for “Theo”, search for “Walcott”, no results. That’s right, I have nothing on his game and I’m not surprised at all, it seems he’s back to square one in terms of running with the ball and forgetting what his destination is. Shame.

van Persie: 5,5 – As we spent most of the time defending the game, it’s no surprise that Robin made very little impact on the game and should have done better in the 67th minute when Andrey assisted. I personally feel that it would have been wise to take him off and put Nicklas who is much better in using his body to shield the ball and allow the midfielders to come forward.

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Miquel: 7 – Considering it was his first game of the official season, Ignasi did well. Maybe, just maybe, he should have done better with the clearance when we conceded the first.

Lansbury and Bendtner: No Vote – Not much from these two as they came on in the 72nd and 80th minute of the game respectively.

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  • Chris says:

    Yes, I was thinking the same thing, we ask for experience yet Andrey Arshavin and Tomas Rosicky always disappoint and I also agree that today’s result is the result of immaturity showed by our players in previous games as Gervinho would have been a huge, huge asset today.

    • Georgi Gunner says:

      Spot on. You could see the sparks in the young players eyes. Ramsey needs a break. Did you notice the empty seats? And that was Liverpool…
      Let’s support the club.

      • danigunner says:

        of course all of arsenal fans have to support the team … the only thing that AW is doing is that he let go the players who dont want to wear the shirt on the pitch. And C’mon its only the beggining we can expect more of our players… I’m not expecting a big super quality sign player, but , Im expecting another GREAT SEASON for us, the gunners! .

        Come on Chris … I know u think that a real fan always support.

        In Wenger I Trust!

        • Dave says:

          Yes, if Arsene let this club finish outside the top 4, we can surely still trust him!

          • WillyG says:

            Yes, and even if his irresposibility let this club to miss the Champions League group stage, we will surely trust him still.

            • Dave says:

              Well, then you follow him with blind faith, like a you’re worshipping him. You type of fans scares me the most.

    • Hunter says:

      Because as usual Arsene made the wrong decisions with the experienced players he decided to let go. I would much rather have seen Eboue on the pitch today than Arshavin because no matter how bad a day he is having he always gave the team everything on the pitch. Not to mention he was very dangerous for us when going forward. While I think Jenkinson may be a decent player at some stage right now he isn’t ready for prime time. If today had been Chelsea or United we would have given up a bunch of chances because his positioning is dreadful. He should be on loan somewhere but because Arsene gave up our only decent fullback coverage we are stuck.

      I was so angry with Arsene looking at the players on the pitch today that it was almost too difficult for me to watch the match. He has completely destroyed our reputation as one of the best sides in Europe and we could well take a hiding at Udinese this week with such a weak squad. We have been outplayed in two out of our 3 matches this season and I can’t see an end in sight. Aside from the first 10 minutes and the last 5 minutes of the first match Udinese played us off the pitch. I wish someone would point out to Arsene that a 34 YEAR OLD (DiNatalle) has been the best striker in Italy for the last 2 years and ran our defense ragged in the first leg. It’s time to throw his asinine age policy away because clearly it’s a failure and bring quality experienced players no matter what the age.

      At this point I have no problem with the fans booing or chanting at him. I don’t like it being done to the players much but since we now pay more to see a match than any other team on the planet (yes we are the most expensive in the entire world) the fans have a right to express their opinions. And contrary to what Arsene keeps saying, this is not the media who caused the fan unrest. It’s his myopic and moronic decision making.

    • gooner montreal says:

      why three guys get send off after 2 games ? why this happen to arsenal and not to others teams ? I think it has to do with bunch of inexperience youth while other teams are older and more professional

      • Gunnerrob says:

        Not true, Gervinho and Song are both experienced.

      • Hunter says:

        No, it’s about discipline which this club lacks. Players get away with slagging off the club, getting sent off, not maintaining defensive discipline, etc. The list goes on and on. Arsene babies the players and it shows.

    • jason says:

      Any player with experience wont do its the right type of player with the experiece we need not Arshavin. :(

      Also Chris do you think we are conceding less now because we have so many players back?

      example Liverpool lost Alonso their most creative player and everyone sat back more and attacked less Torres had to go deeper to get the ball which is exactly the same with RVP.

      I think our new left back anyway can do the job deffinately better than Clichy he looks the part.

      • Dave says:

        Conceding less? You are having a laugh. We barely started the season and we conceded 2 goals already. Unfortunately, Man United will add more goals to that tally, especially against these kids.

  • billp79 says:

    because a times he was triple teamed, and the old Thoe showed up (moving only north south and protecting his right foot)…it seams someone has instructed him to get to the corner and make a cross

  • gooner montreal says:

    By next weekend , if we don’t make it pass Udinese and lost against Man utd , it is all over for Arsenal .
    Regardless, it is disaster pure and simple , it is very likely Arsenal will implode this season .
    Qui vie verra .

  • tonygunner says:

    I will not blame the players for this defeat. Those that did not perform (RVP and Walcott for example) were frustrated by our formation and didn’t get the service they require.
    Frimpong least of all, he played his heart out and should have been pulled as it was obvious he was likely to get a red. He has still to mature and will eventually be a great player.
    With a severely weakened team from the start you knew it was going to be difficult, and then with Kos’s injury after only 14 minutes, we were screwed. The very area where we are most vulnerable because we have no competent back ups – that was the turning point in my
    view. Despite the valiant performance of Miguel, and of course Verm was brilliant throughout, it was not to be.
    After all of the above I will leave anyone who bothers to read this to draw their own conclusions as to where the responsibility lies. I’ll give you a clue – don’t look on the pitch!

  • GunnerEye says:

    Frimpong ,he good ,class performance ,I sure he will get red card at wednesday ,he chase or rush for ball like a bull ,that beast and that is rude for a yellow or red card .We look good at defence but we are so poor at midfield creative .Is the same story at last season .Creative midfield poor defence .What the different

    • Donnie says:

      seems like the new viera

      we have been asking for a player to be full of engery and a viera type

      and i think he dose fit the bill.

      • tonygunner says:

        It’ll be a very long time (if ever) before he comes close to Vieira (that’s how you spell it).
        When he arrived at Arsenal he was already an experienced quality player. Besides which Frimpong doesn’t have the physique to be as dominant, does he?
        Remember how he used to be in Roy Keane’s face? He was the best MF we ever had.

    • gooner montreal says:

      if frimpong and gerv cannot have a minimum of control of themselves , then they should look to play elsewhere , what happened had cost too much to arsenal

  • Ron says:

    Szczesny and Vermaelen did perform excellent. Even Frimpong and Miquel did work so good that seems DM and CD are not the priority in new signing. Instead, attack line make me worry. Without Wilshere and Fab, no one can move the ball quick and make decent through pass. Ramsey is yet ready for the role. Walcott and Arshavin did not move a lot and seldom cut in. Van Persie was isolated and lack of support from Walcott and Arshavin. Hope this lose can push Wenger bring a AM and striker.

    Impressed with Frimpong’s heart and energy. With the existing squad, except Nasri, would prefer him instead of Ramsey. Pair with Song for holding mid and play Wilshere as AM.

    By the way, with the current suspend and injury list, we may have two CM only (Lansbury and Ramsey) for the coming Manu game. Look forward to see how will Wenger form the mid field line for the Manu game.

  • Arsenal1 says:

    Say what ?
    Arshavin – 4?
    Does it mean Ramsey did better than Arshavin?

    • Dacqri says:

      Agreed!

  • TTGunner says:

    I’m glad this wasn’t a ‘doom and gloom’ report because, considering how weak the team was, that was a pretty good performance. Aaron had another shocker, which is highly frustrating seeing as I think the ability is there. Should be a fascinating (painful) game away to United though. I wonder who will play DM and partner Verm at CB?

    • Hunter says:

      I think this is a bit of one of those things like Denilson. Just because a player has some inkling of potential does not mean he is ready to play for one of the top sides in Europe. He’s not good enough and he needs to be replaced. He shouldn’t play more than 10-15 matches this season in the League and all of the Carling Cup matches.

  • SanjGooner says:

    Today was dissappointing, we didn’t create a single good chance which is sad. Defensively this season so far has been good. Koscienly and vermaelen have been immense and as a unit we are better. However ALL our creativity has gone out the window which shows the players we have dont have the commitment or the ability.

    Theo, Arshavin, ramsey were all poor and provided nothing for V. Persie.

    We need a defender a central midfielder and a creative midfielder. Without these 3 … im afraid this season will be another shambles. 2/3 wont do as we will still be weak.

    I don;t understand why it takes us so long to buy players when it takes other teams 2 days. I do folow in the Arsenal way that we shouldn’t over spend and I like it when Wenger buys unknowns (gives a little excitement), but why spend 12m of chamberlain and not play him today? And where was miyaichi… I’m sure he would have provided more then arshavin and theo.

    I’m not saying wenger should spend 100m on players all i want is a nice 10 or so on eah of the positions I stated and I beleive we’d be strong.

    • frimpong, you monster! says:

      think the reason, alex and ryo didn’t get a run out was because of the sending off, and the kos injury. But i think i would have liked to have seen either one instead of Bendtner.

      • Hunter says:

        I don’t want to see Alex on the pitch. Send him on loan to Bolton and let him learn there. I am sick and tired of seeing kids learning on the job. This is not a playground or a nursery.

        • AmericanUptheArse says:

          Well said, sir. Not sure where we are headed this season if Arsene doesnt dip into the transfer market, sick and tired of seing boys doing a mans job.
          As much as he doesnt want to cave to his principles of creating talent, he had got to.

          • frimpong, you monster! says:

            never said i didn’t want him to buy anyone to do the job properly, but if that’s all that was on the bench today that’s how i would have liked to have seen the resources used. Removing theo and arshavin just left nasri as the sole creator. we defo need to purchase at least 2 players!

  • Alpha t says:

    The red card changed the game unfortunately, we would have got a point at worse!
    I also knew Frimpong was going to get sent off but what option did we have but to continue playing him.
    At least Gervinho will be back for Udinese, any news on Wilshere? We need him against Utd to stand any chance.

    • Chris says:

      I agree, the difference between a draw/win and a defeat on Sunday is called Jack Wilshere.

      • billp79 says:

        teams have realized that they can get a result from us by sitting back and waiting fro us to make a mistake…

  • True Gunner says:

    Is it so hard to say Ramsey is rubbish, you’ll don’t seem to have that problem when it come on to denilson and other Arsenal players.

    • SanjGooner says:

      I agree I’ve never rated ramsey……. hence why i said we need another midfielder

    • Chris says:

      And you call yourself “True Gunner”?

      Aaron is enjoying his second spell in the first team, the first one was top-class, then he suffered the injury so don’t compare him to Denilson or “other players” who played more than 30 games in a row. If you expect me to call him “rubbish” after only three games, you’re on the wrong site my friend.

      • True Gunner says:

        We will see how long you use his injury for a excuse, Vermaelen was injured, he is now playing well, at the end of the season I would want to know your excuse for that lethargic wales captain.

        • Chris says:

          We’ll see in May then.

          • Frog says:

            I don’t rate Ramsey either. I think we all want him to be the arsenal future next to jack but I just don’t see it. If I had to chose between Ramsey, Denilson and diaby at this point I think is opt to play with 5 defenders and one less midfielder. Just not good enough I’m afraid

            • Hunter says:

              At this point I would rather play Djourou in midfield than Ramsey. If he hadn’t been so slow to track back (yet again) he wouldn’t have been trailing the play which is what caused the own goal.

              He was good before the injury but he is just not good now. Let him go complete his rehab elsewhere.

              • Frog says:

                I agree. We need a proper central midfielder now. Not rosicky or Ramsey or diaby. We need a guy who can react quickly and make a killer pass and at the same time know when it time to get the ball and just hold it. All of our cm’s are below par except wilshere, and even he is way to ” young” to shoulder al of that responsibility. How did we go from the best midfield in Europe to total crap? Ahhhhhh!!

        • TheIceManCometh says:

          Forgive me for not knowing that a broken leg is an easy injury to recover from, and that those who suffer that injury should be immediately up to top speed. Stop being ridiculous! Ramsey doesn’t play well with Nasri in the middle because Samir forces him out wide when Aaron should be receiving the ball and orchestrating play. He plays a lot better with Wilshere (as does the entire team in general). He is a good player and has an eye for long through balls. Not his best performance today, but not better than Denilson?

          • Frog says:

            No, he was not better than Denilson today. He was terrible.

            • billp79 says:

              it is pretty tough shoes to fill in Cesc’s absence…and while I don’t rate all of Chris’s players (hmmm Vela) I think he is right with Ramsey…he just needs to pick up his fitness and positioning… alot had to do with Frimpong playing emotionally and Arshavan not at all…with Theo hanging out on the other touchline that means Arron has to cover a lot of gtround…I blame Wenger and the formation he use with the players he put on the field…

              • frog says:

                no way dude. you cant put this one on wneger. ramsey has faied to impress again. he needs to go out on loan as hunter said, and we need a central midfielder who is going to show up an preform every week. Ramsey is not that guy now, he may not be it ever.

                • billp79 says:

                  Ramsey is not a holding mid and when frimpong goes forward that exactly the position ramsey found himself in…arshavan wasn’t going to sit back….nor did he have the size to sit if front of the back 4…this is what happens when you don’t recruit a back up defensive mid/ cb in songs mold…..someone like cahill who can do both and can platton for both when we get yet another reoccuring injury.

                  entirely wenger

                  I like him he’s a great coach, but he’s made some god awful decisions since the end of last year…

              • tonygunner says:

                I agree totally about the formation that the manager is putting on the field. With RVP alone up front, we have seen in the last 2 matches that we have nobody in the middle whan we manage to get a cross from the flanks into the box. Surely even the players can see this and talk to the “manager”.

                We need 4-4-2 at least until our injury problems are behind us, if they ever will. If he plays this system on Wednesday v Udi, we are done for CL group stage, and hello Europa (boring!)

                Then see the gates plummet at Emirates for those games. I’m still praying for a miracle, but I would love to be a fly on the wall at the next board meeting if we fail.

                Item 1 on the agenda: Loss of 30M pounds revenue.

                • billp79 says:

                  i came across the pond and saw the fulham game…i thought the 4-4-2 with chahmak and Rvp had potential…but robin needs to sit back and play around chamahk in the hole…chahmaks a good hold up player and with a decent head for goal…needs more confidence when dribbling tho…but even Gervihno is having trouble on that front…

    • Tsusima says:

      I have never seen people calling Ramsey rubbish until the last too games, but if you try to read more from other forums’ writting in the last 5 years, you will find the players you meant.

    • jason says:

      Ramsey is absolute quality he was ahead of Wilshere at one point. He had a amazing first season and then got injured and its his first season back from a leg break and your actually complaining he lacks quality atm?

      Gooners these days :(

  • kenyan gunner says:

    Frimpong is truly world class. He single handedly owned the Liverfool mid, to be specific the much hyped Charlie Adam. He adds bite and steel in our mid and in my opinion, is a legendary box to box midfielder in the making
    Ramsey, on the other hand was horrifying, at best. He added no value whatsoever to our offence/defence.
    Wojciech, Sagna, Vermaelen, Jenkinson- one word; Formidable.

    • Hunter says:

      He’s played less than 90 minutes of top flight football and he’s world class? I think you are smoking whatever Arsene has been smoking for the last 6 years. It was a good performance but nowhere near world class. A world class player there like Makelele knows when to not do something stupid and take a stupid card. The be world class you need the mentality as well as the physical attributes. Right now Pong only has one of those.

  • James says:

    The problem is the new formation in midfield of 1-2, where as last season 2-1 (1beig ceac role) problem is the two have to alternate as to who’s to drop back to help DM and the other to fill cesc’s role. Particularly Ramsey is struggling as he’s often caught between the two, he’s most effective in cesc role, maybe this will be sorted once paired with wilshere as hes better at dropping back to help. And I’m sure he’ll be more effective there, but only if wenger changes formation back.
    P.s I appologise to everyone for my comment, quite hard to get my point across, hope you understand where I’m coming from

  • One Ede says:

    It’s been over a year since I commented on this forum.Nothing been said today has not been said in the last few years.I specifically stated that Wenger’s obsession with balancing the books while our football suffered will backfire eventually.Our top players are leaving,we can’t seem to find top class replacements possibly because they query the club’s ambition.Do you blame them?I truly believed that after the calamitous end to last season,Wenger would spend some money bringing in top class players but instead he goes on a selling spree and wants us to believe all is well.Is Wenger deluded?Does he still have the same drive as when he first arrived Highbury?I do not believe for once that he will leave Arsenal.He has put his all into building a great club but right now he is doing his very best to bring it to it’s knees.What on earth does he have planned for us?

  • me says:

    CHRIS..i have study the formation for midfield..i think there should be song frimpong wilshere..while wide is nasri and gervinho..van persie up front.wilshere should be more attacking midfield.just look the game he play on pre season 09/10..he did very well and he can score..while song support him and frimpong more to defensive mid…this will be killer team..are u agree with me????

    • Alpha t says:

      Yep I think most would agree with you ‘me’

      If Nasri stays(we need him more than ever, give him want he wants, it’s not like we’ll spend d money we get from city anyway). A front tree of Nasri, RVP & Gervinho, a midfield trio of Song,Wilshere & Frimpong is the best this squad has to offer!

    • Hunter says:

      There isn’t enough creativity in that midfield to open up a strong defense.

      • me says:

        u wrong..song and wilshere have a good chemistry..song is creative to hold the ball and if u can see the game before this song is master to make a pass can make a good through pass.so after fabregas derpature he can take his place.frimpong can be wall for them..just don’t be hope anymore on the fabregas role..we can use another style of attacking..

        • Hunter says:

          What you said here makes no sense. Song doesn’t have the passing range or ability to split defenses and that’s a fact that can’t be denied.

  • Nikko says:

    If Miquel can always play this well, we might not need a CB. However, anybody got any news on Kossher? I think Frimpong needs someone to quid him yes. But who? Jack? Ramsey? Song? Nasri if he stays? No one in our team has that veteran rank. Maybe RvP but he’s a striker. You could say Rosicky and Arshavin are experienced, really? I mean, how many trohies have they won? Between them? Not the type of experience needed. Basically, we’re back to square one, we have to wait for these players to get older and better like we did with Cesc. Thats a long time. I dont know who, but Wenger must buy creative winger/AM a CM and striker. Then the left back situation will need to be looked at.

    • Dave says:

      You’re nut if you don’ think we need a quality CB. Miquel did ok even with his hand at the own-goal and he had trouble handling Suarez not surprising, Wenger asking a kid to do a man’s job.

  • Bouba says:

    Sorry for saying so, but what in GOD’s name was that???
    We have been bad before, but that was just an “ass”…

    Chris, for the first time I agree with your ratings, cheers mate.

    First of all I would like to suggest to Walcott to stop spreading his “gollabins” and perform first. We are still waiting to get our money worth (£12 millions )… So instead of talking crap everytime you have a microphone in front of you, start showing why we paid so much for so little so far ( and he wants to be a striker… he is totally deluded ).

    Second, we need a striker, because RVP should be playing in a Berkamp still position. He has no physical presence upfront… It is embarrassing sometimes.

    Ramsey needs to check himself out and get it together… What a nightmare! And Wenger has big hopes and is counting on his abilities… A performance to forget.

    Arshavin, well, I don’t know what to say… Disappointing, especially when experience is needed to guide the youth…!!

    Nasri… Did his job and was the most dangerous player… Thankfully the fans did not boo him because the shame would have been on us… We are going to miss his talent, because someone like Wilshere or Ramsey are still far from his level.

    Arsene Wenger finds himself against the wall… The board should take his responsabilities and support him financially… And Wenger should use the last 10 days of the market to do some serious spendings… I fear the worse facing Man U…

    In reality, we need 5 or 6 players to turn around a catastrophic sportive policy. But the fact is we could get 2 or 3 to make some kind of difference.

    By the way, I just don’t see Bendtner leave… Get use to it.

  • tonygunner says:

    We lost today because our team is seriously weakened. The loss of Kos was the death knell.
    Younger readers google “death knell”). The players on field played their hearts out, even the ones that disappointed like Walcott, Arshavin, RVP. RVP never got any service.
    At the end of the day you have to look at AW. No proper replacement for Kos (guess we saw that coming) and then nobody on the bench who gave us much hope. Bendtner, Lansbury etc.
    Sad to say all the nay sayers are so far proving to be right (including me).
    Is anyone looking forward to Udi & Manu? I’m not.
    PLEASE go Gunners!!
    See you in Europa and bottom half of BPL. (Hope I’m wrong).
    He’s got to buy some experience before Aug 31 HASN’T HE?

    from Frustrated Gooner in Toronto.

    • bed w batata says:

      dear gooner in toronto,

      please cheer up.

      sincerely,
      A lebanese gooner who is fed up reading useless comments :)

      • Dave says:

        Yes, we should cheer up when our team put out a pathetic performance. I’m also fed up useless comments as well.

  • soccersurf says:

    What about the rating for Wenger? Would give him a 2

    It is OBVIOUS Theo can’t play on the wing against real team. His effort was just pathetic
    Arhsavin was disgraceful
    And Ramsey is plain and simply too slow for the EPL – He does play a good game now and then but always follows it up by 4 bad ones

    Wengers use of Frimpong was schocking as it was obvious (as i commented after his yellow) that he would pul a diaby and cost us the game

    Wenger preaches youth but it is obvious he just needs to blend it with experience. Losing 2-0 at home to liverpool (who played poorly) and being forced to play Sagna at left back, and others out of position is just plan bad management

    Very hard to watch as we stuck through with the team when they had so much potential with Dude, Flamini, etc and saw that team fall apart

    Wenger – IF YOU ARE GOING TO KEEP CHAMHAK THEN WHY PLAY BENTNDER?! MAKE UP YOUR MIND!!!
    And what about Nasri?! Now what? Does he play Wendesday and be black listed from Champions League for Man City?!

    Why are we looking so desperate after 2 games, having to play two players we are allegedly selling (what happens if they get injured) and having to play people out of position or throw them in against Liverpool who have just spent 100 million. It is really dissapointing as we have the potential to just tweak the team (as usual) and make it so different

    Also please try a 4-4-2 at least at home. RVP IS ISOLATED AS HELL UP TOP, HE HAD TO DROP BACK TO MIDFIELD ALL GAME

    • kafta says:

      Thank you mate. you saved our day.
      And once again the day is saved thanks to the powerpuffgirls.

  • xx says:

    WENGER SHOULD LEAVE AND GO WHERE EVER HE WANTS! He is no longer fit to be arsenal manager. He lives in a fact free zone. Why was Frimpong not substituted when it was clear he was going to get a second yellow? Why is Vermalean not the captain, why has the club not purchased the centreback we all know is required, why was clichy not replaced, we are now playing Sagna out of position. Why is he not selling squillach and Chamakh instead of Bendtner, why has the club not signed replacements for Nasir and Fabregas when it was clear the two would be leaving. Why did the club spent 15 million on a young player who is not ready when the club is so depleted. For all these reasons and more, Wenger should leave tonight, not after the defeat to Udinese on Wednesday or the loss to ManU next weekend. Lastly, Ramsey,Frimpong, Jenkinson, Miguel, Chamberlain, Joe Campbell are all decent young players who may be good in the future, BUT they are not ready for the first team. At best they are good substitutes. Theo and Asharvin are clearly failures- best used as substitutes. If Arsenal had a football loving owner and not a silent investor, Wenger would be gone by now. I am also beginning to think that Wenger is compensated based on the club’s profitabilty and not footballing results. The club should prove me wrong by releasing details of the incentive/bonus part of his contract. Arsenal fans everywhere should demand that the ownership, board and coaching set-up of the team be changed immediately. This is a daylight fraud which should be stopped!

    • Frog says:

      If aw was in it for the money he would have taken the real Madrid job 2 years ago. Relax sunshine.

      • Dave says:

        That’s a laugh, Arsene offered to manage Real Madrid. If fails to deliver the league or CL on one season, he’ll be out of there so fast, he’ll go back to Ligue 1.

        • frog says:

          its not a laugh, Madrid actually went quite public with their desire to hire him after they sacked Pelligrini. Arsene, unlike, Cesc, told them to bugger off.dont hate just to hate Dave. some of us have supported the Arsenal for longer than 6 months.

          • Dave says:

            The likes Barca and Real won’t even to think to hire Wenger now, as they want a manager who can bring trophies. If Wenger was hired for the Real job, he will be out of there so fast because they expect a manager to win trophies not obsess with youth policy first. I supported Arsenal way before Wenger came to the club. Let me guess, you supported the club when Wenger was manager? Probably why you’re one of his biggest apologists here.

      • Jim says:

        Only at Arsenal, Wenger has a job for life regardless of trophies. Wenger can do virtually whatever he wants at Arsenal. He would not have that freedom at Madrid. He could not manage star players at Madrid (unlike kids at Arsenal). And he would be sacked after one year without trophies at Madrid.

        • billp79 says:

          only if the economic situation improve dramatically in our facor say like if UEFA revise/ refine the fair play rule or the stock market crashes on oil or united…
          Wenger will be coach…we don’t need a coach that spends 10 times as much and gets the same result that AW gets right now…its sad but thats the truth that nobody can change…we need to replace the players with those that have a spine….the going price is 18-20 mil per….

  • Ben lanier says:

    When I saw Suarez get substituted in I turned off my television knowing he would give miquel, and particurlary without protection from the incredible frimpong, a nightmare.

    • YuppieScum says:

      I confess I turned ti off when Suarez came on, too. I couldn’t bear to watch the inevitable. Chicken-sh*t on my part, I know – but there it is.

    • JohnDale says:

      Dude, it wasn’t Miguel. It was Ramsey who couldn’t just find his bearings.

    • WillyG says:

      I switched off after the own goal. There no way in hell Arsenal is going to get a goal in the game.

      • billp79 says:

        I was unimpressed by suarez…you guys need to check back into the insitute…mugsmashers

  • RodGoonerInTtown says:

    Frimpong is Beast!!!! Van Persie didn’t have support and Ramsey wasn’t even on the field was he, don’t mean to be doom and gloom and won’t stop getting up at 430 am to watch my Arsenal, but if we don’t sign anyone this week, I think we’re in for a loooong painful season

  • Donnie says:

    hat off to nasri
    whos knows whats going on with him and most probs we will leave
    and i think we also have to understand him for leaving
    look at us we dont seem a team to win things.

    but today we was great the only attacking minded player that look like he could make that pass or score that goal
    played veryyyyyyyyy welll
    considering it looked like it was just him and frimpong in the middle
    ramsey was pooooooor deff cant be a replacent for fabrigas.

    we didnt play that bad tho
    peoplle have to understand you cant blame wenger for injouris and liverpool had there fist team on.

    i say wenger pays nasri what ever he wants
    just keep him at the club…i dont doubt his commitment to arsenal aswel
    he gave his all today.

  • Gporgie says:

    Yeah I support you Chriss,but AW should buy one solid defender and one attacking mid field incase of injuries and suspension as we are on now. Buy Cahil/Dann and Mata or E Hazard they will fit and match the currently squad.

  • YuppieScum says:

    Early on my thought was: these are 2 poor teams, and neither are likely to score – unless (until) Liverpud send in Suarez. Then, when 1) Frimpong picked up his second yellow, and 2) Suarez came on, the outcome was inevitable.

    Frimpong was effective, however his foolish cards (both were foolish) killed us. Thus, I’d have to cut him from 7 to 3 or 4.

    Theo was invisible.

    Arshavin was very sloppy, and thus very poor.

    Ramsey is indeed slow, and ineffective.

    Sorry to dwell on the negative, but it’s hard not to. Others generally played well.

    Fingers crossed Kos’s back-ache disappears as quickly as it came on.

    I’m confident AW will add another player or 2. Jack, Song, Gervinho will be back soon. It’s a long season. However, in the end we’ll be too thin yet again.

    I don’t blame Wenger. I blame Financial (un)Fair Play. Can’t compete when the competition is willing to triple our best players’ wages.

  • TheIceManCometh says:

    Not sure if any others noticed this, but Frimpong’s first yellow was a good foul to take at that moment. The back line was out of sorts when Henderson was going to throw, and it would have been a direct attack on goal had Frimpong not impeded play. So for the inevitable “he doesn’t play with a brain” comments, Firmpong made an intelligent play then; not so much against Lucas.

    • Jorg says:

      Yes, he needed to do this because his team mates did not realize the danger…this one was worth the yellow card.

  • soccersurf says:

    ALSO IF WE ARE A “BIG” CLUB HOW CAN WE SELL NASRI TO A RIVAL?

    Man City wouldnt sell us Given. United would NEVER sell us a good player (hence Silvestre)

    Why US? Surely we can put Nasri on the open market and another team will buy, even for a bit less
    It is NUTS that we as a “big” club would sell to a team looking to win the league and take a champions league spot

    We Aren’t broke either, we have good cash flow

  • terry says:

    Arshavin is a striker nd not a left winger .
    Ramsay is playin as a cm nd not as a winger he loves to dribble d ball he should dribble less and pass more.
    He should b d one lookin for killer passes.
    And ya walcott should play as a striker. A through ball nd no def in d league can catch him.

    • me says:

      i dont think arshavin is striker.wenger had ever put him in striker before.but he himself said he cannot play as a striker..he don’t like it..

  • IndoArsenal says:

    Hi all,

    I’m a newbie here, 1st please forgive me for my bad english. :)

    For defender Szczesny and Vermalen, both of them is really great, Sagna and Jerkinson also play a very good game, if only Koscielny isn’t injured, maybe pool won’t win this match

    For midfielder, I see Viera, I see Gattuso, I see Essien inside Frimpong he’ll be a great player one day, Nasri, I really wish, he’ll change his mind and stay with Arsenal. Ramsey just too slow, and lack of creativity, Arshavin, made a very good pass for Persie, before and after that Arshavin is nothing, Walcott, same with Arshavin, nothing – minus he’s not made any assist

    For attacker : I don’t see Persie is fit for our no 9 (or in Arsenal case, is no 14), really we need to buy a world class striker, someone like Drogba, someone like our King Henry :) someone who can make a goal from 0.5 chance :) , maybe we can push Gervinho into this position…

    While for next week, we may see Nasri leave the club, so maybe we’ll see debut from Ryo or Campbell…. Let’s hope the best, i wish we an win next week. Thank you

    • Jim says:

      Your English is fine. Yours is better than many English bloggers, believe me.

  • ketexs says:

    sto no pued pasar en casa arsenal
    arsen wenger tien q aser algo rapido para q no pase loq paso hoy q es humillante para nosotros como fans d arsenal 4 life.

  • Erdy says:

    Arsenal need a new quality playmaker I think it’s not a right time to throw Ramsey straight to the first team.

  • Christoph says:

    Truly gutted. For the team and for Frimong.

    Considering the circumstances going into this game I thought we played with a lot of character. Ironically it wasn’t the youngsters we were so worried about that let the team down, it was the experienced players.

    I really hope Kos is okay because his partnership with Vermaelen was really starting to develop. Miquel did well I thought, being forced on as he was. Jenkinson was excellent. Lots of running, energy and good crosses. And Frimpong, well he was just immense. Red card aside his performance was excellent. I can’t wait for Jack to be back and get these two running the midfield show.

    But then… Ramsey was woeful. Non-existant for the most part. Arshavin misplaced untold passes. Walcott completely ineffective.

    Now, RVP, our new captain. This is controversial, but he wasn’t there today. Granted he needs service which he didn’t get. But as a captain you need to rally the team. Vermaelen was leading by example. RVP had terrible body language and slumped.

    Don’t get me wrong, I love RVP and trust him, rate him and have faith in him and I know he will be a good captain. But he somehow needs to raise his game (and leadership) when he’s not getting the service and things aren’t going our way.

    Onto Nasri. I have to give credit where credit is due. Considering the abuse he’s received in the past month, I thought he was very professional and played well. Shame, he could have been great for Arsenal but I feel he’s burnt to many bridges.

    Finally, I’m terrified by the thought of next weekend. It’s going to be one very difficult week for Arsenal and us fans. It’s now more than ever we have to support the boys and lift their spirits.

  • goonersegun says:

    Gud rating well wat i c frm today games was total messed up…AA shld be let to play frm the middle instead of rambo n play either ryo or alex on d wing y pay £12m on him n not give him a chance he is more direct than theo who cant take defender one on one i hope he get the new signing done b4 window is close..

  • kimo says:

    Tactically, from an offensive perspective, we’ve been spiraling downward for quite some time. Our spacing is terrible and w/ only one striker (who’s probably a better withdrawn striker in a 2 man set up) crossing is almost useless. Wenger really needs to change our formation. My hope is that we utilize a 2 man striker set up…a la Manu. VP…like Rooney and perhaps a Theo or Gervinho like Chicharito. We’re just not very dangerous.

  • Aussie Jack says:

    It`s all been said and we all seem to agree with the analysis. Arsenal were valiant in defeat and I`m sure times will improve but not right away, there are more tears to shed I`m afraid.

    If the Hazard deal depends on the mid week result then he won`t be coming to Arsenal.

    What`s the word on Koscieny?

  • soccersurf says:

    Agree Kimo! We have had so many useless crosses over the past few years. Need to keep the ball on the ground ffs

  • GoonerSat says:

    Regardless of all the criticism that seems to be in the air, I believe we showed what is required of title contenders. Grit, grit and more grit..

    What killed me today is that the rules of football seem fine when the FA want to throw sticks in our wheels, with the 3 match bans, while Barton walks away free of all charges. On that note, If the ref doesn’t blow for a dive and the ball is still in play then… I’ll let everyone who bothers to read this figure it out. Clearly the ref wasn’t paying attention until Barton flapped to the floor.

    Any scoring part of the body, that is the newest rule.. and it so happens that Suarez was offside when he got the pass and I don’t see how an own goal is advantage to Arsenal. So regardless of all our problems and whatever you want to think if we hadn’t conceded the first goal then we would have walked away with a draw. Yes, a draw that we deserve.

    Finally, on your Frimpong note : you take of the only person on the pitch who has got everyone in the Emirates cheering? please either way we would have found a reason to critise Wenger.

    I’m sad, and pissed off that the Gods of Football are not shinning on us. I hope that we go on to win midweek and qualify, this will give us the lift we need to take to Old Trafford. I’m deeply saddened by the lack of support for the Arsenal.

    KEEP THE FAITH!

  • John says:

    Arshavin was SHIT would rather had seen Alex Chamberlain given his debut. Arshavin is still living off that four in one game against Liverpool. We need a cash injection and quick.

  • ruelando says:

    We lost to liverpool a team i actually liked, they out played us and a figure it was the fact that our middle was missing. Walcott was easily mark out of the game and does not have the natural ability to dribble pass opponents.WEnger had time to change his formation to suit the game, Bend or Cham should have been the main forward and nasri on the wings with VP behind the strikers. He also as too tricky player on the bench RYO and Alex, which i was disappointed in not letting one of them play in the Walcott or Arshavin role

  • Scott (USA) says:

    Wenger has had a couple months to do his job and this is where Arsenal are at. The facts are the facts and Wenger has clearly lost the plot. The Gunners are not ready to play with the top four. I thought we were lacking depth last season but it has not gotten better only worse. This is his team and his vision. yikes! No more excuses from the man please. Tapping, injuries blah blah blah. A new direction please.

  • Boris Godunov says:

    Complete undisguised disgrace the preseason and the beginning truly were. The worst part of it is that there’s no light at the end of the tunnel. AW would be much better off on a plantation in America, using cheap black manpower, than running a super club, fighting for the most prestigious competition in world football, with no apparent appreciation for the basic decency of white man’s culture.

    • macbeth says:

      shut up and die, racist scum!

    • Frog says:

      Wow.

  • Theohari says:

    I cannot believe only one person has mentioned the offside !! And the 2nd goal was dubious too !!
    After watching the game, I believe the team will be bolstered enough to be reasonable contenders. Depending on signings, and early success of the potentially top payers in Campbell/Rio/Chamberlain, I think it would be wise to put Van Persie in the creative role of AM. He can definitely move the ball, set up other players and even have the occasional long range effort that would see him now as captain lead the team and excel. In front of him ideally a new signing, and Nasri/Gervinho wide (assuming Nasri doesn’t leave). In the DM I would play Song, Wilshere and occasionally Frimpong who if he screws his head on is going to be the next Gilberto/Viera and Ramsey. Defensively I think Arsene needs a new LB, and an experienced one. But for now Johan/Kos/Vermalean(who has been great)/Sagna is doing well.

    This team with two signings has the potential to be a very strong outfit. I believe also even stating Rio, Gervinho, Chamberlain over Walcott and Arshavin might help get these two to wake up to themselves and start getting some form.

  • rangkunin says:

    If we look carefully from previous up to now many referees tend to victimise Arsenal. The opponent would not get punishment the same as Arsenal palyers do. Pls check carefully. i think many of them feel embarrassed if arsenal could win trophy through minimal budget and nurtured players. No need mega buys for established players. One more thing every manager now looking at arsenal players and who are scouted by arsenal. they surely snatch them cos arsenal scouter is brilliant. believe me in 3 yrs tme barca, mu, mcity, real madrid will invite arsenal player to pla wiz zem and claim that the players have their dna. so u like o not u have to accept Arsene wenger is most valuable and brilliant manager football in the world.

  • Gladq8 says:

    The image of Wenger rubbing his wet hair in frustration sums up my Arsenal now. This will not last. Gooner 4 life.

    PS. Just ordered a Vermaleen (5) away shirt and I suggest you do the same. He is our new Cesc now.

  • danigunner says:

    hello arsenal fans… after seeing liverpool winning in today´s match. I saw arsene´s sad face , he´s sad because he focus every day and every year in our team , WE MUST SUPPORT ARSENE because he was always loyal with us and the team. Hope he finds how to controll all the disciplinary actions. and find a way to win soon .

    And he only let go this season the players who doesnt want to be part of our team, in fact he stays… and maybe Nasri is goint to Money City…

    We are the fans and we have to support our manager… and our team.

    Love to be a gooner.

    • Dave says:

      It’s his fault the team has become like this, driving away our established players like Cesc, Clichy and soon Nasri, while he keeps buying inexperience kids to make up the loss. I won’t support Arsene, he has overstayed his welcome in the club.

    • Jim says:

      Arsene Wenger is an Arsenal legend, no doubt. We’d love to trust him as we used to. We’d love to support him as we used to. But we cannot anymore. His stubbornness, “My way is the one and only way”, is destroying our club.

      Nothing is more damning than, while he’s got the money, the club has the money, and yet he still insists buying on the cheap and haggles to the last pennies in the last minutes. He still hasn’t spent, despite a crisis is fast descending upon us. For what purporses? Is it to prove that his small-mindedness is superior than the rest?

  • Pat Rice says:

    At this point in time, a signing like Eto is what we really need to have any hope of winning a trophy.

  • Frank Mo says:

    Wenger turned down the chance to sign Luis Suarez on the cheap, at just 18 million last summer, It is good to see Suarez come and remind him what he missed.

    I agree Arsenal have a good squad as the academy line of production keep producing top class performers starting with Wilshere, Szczesny, Miquel and now Frimpong (who despite the red card was the best player despite playing at a position where Arsenal are considered weakest and he will surely become better than Vieira as he is quicker and probably will grow to be stronger and a better passer and also maybe earn a bit more redcards on the flipside but he is real good) BUT Wenger has to stop letting chances of top quality signings pass him by.

    Last summer he allowed Rafael Van Der Vaart go to Tottenham Hotspurs, in January he let Luis Suarez go to Liverpool, sometimes back he allowed Vincent Kompany go to Manchester City and lets not forget Cristiano Ronaldo, Phil Jones and Christopher Smalling to Manchester United. Now this summer he has allowed Arturo Vidal go to Juventus and he is about to see Gary Cahill join Liverpool and Juan Mata join Chelsea. He has to STOP saying that he is looking for top quality players as all those players are better than what we need and he was in the driving seat with a real good chance to bring them to Arsenal, all of them at a price way below 20 million and he never even bid, despite some of them like Suarez, Cahill and Van Der Vaart practically begging him to sign them on a price way below what they are worth. I forgot Ashley Young who is still raving about his love for Arsenal despite wearing AON on his red shirt instead of “fly emirates”, and he will surely score against us next Weekend as every player Wenger passed does.

    Wenger has to stop saying he is looking for top quality players that is why he is not signing people as top quality is definitely not 29 year old Jagielka at 18 million whan he has an option of a superb 25 year old Gary Cahill or Lucho Gonzalez on loan. That is not top quality search, those are players who Bolton Wanderers and Blackburn Rovers should be looking for.

    Per Mertesacker is in the market, so is Gary Cahill, Eden Hazard, Juan Mata, Karim Benzema, now that is what is called quality and Wenger has already been quoted prices for those ones and he has looked away to other options, he has looked away from quality and he would even be better of not signing what he is looking at, we already have Squillaci, Diaby and Arshavin, we don’tn need any more dead wood in our beloved team

  • me says:

    whenever i very annoyingggggg with RAMSEY!!!! i saw he can use his right leg.even all touch the ball with his right leg..i see like a schoolboy playing ball….when he get ball he he touch with right legs.when dribble use the same..when shoot also same.the strange is his shoot like a shoot a balloon not powerful..never use his left legs..and also he very slow on game..loss ball away to much….he cause our midfied is lack creativity.just depend on nasri….i cannot stand with him anymore..

  • summerbreez says:

    this cant keep on happening we are getting to thin MR wenger has to bring in players such as marasacker marvin martin and mata and cahil and keep nasri

    we have to bounce back

  • SanjGooner says:

    What I dont get, and I’ve been noticing it for many years… If when the midfiled lose the ball… there is no urgency to win it back. They all seem to stroll along. Song tries so im happy there but ramsey etc….. just job back.

    Ive always said anytime we concede a goals from open play that it isn’t the defences fault but the midfield not giving protection .. it makes good defenders run around like headless chickens.

    So again I say..

    1. We need a central mid who isnt all classy but strong and works hard
    2. Attacking mid as we have no creativity and porbably wont score a goal atm
    3. Defender as injuries are piling up and vermealen could do with a better partner.

    I hope miyaichi and campbell get a chance. They cant be as bad as arshavin and bentdner can they?

  • mdspwt says:

    Deep Breath…..Its August 21. One year ago we were wondering if a kid named Jack Wilshire would even get minutes. There are so many pieces to this puzzle and whether they fit together will determine our fate. I, for one (and maybe the only one) was excited to see such a young lineup (albeit we had little choice) going into the match. Its never enjoyable to lose, but i think we gained valuable information on the makeup of a number of individuals in just that 90 minutes test. Here is what we know.

    Arshavin thinks he is Messi. Its almost as if the longer he has remained at arsenal the more emboldened he has become in his belief that he can take on 3 defenders and dribble through them all on a consistent basis. He is the opposite of we have been trying to promote under AW that it boggles the universe that he even gets out there. PASS THE #@^%#@ BALL. No more, please. When he was the new kid on the block a number of years back he played quite a different game.

    Walcott. The MOMENT he went up to the referee and put his nose 3 inches away with some kind of “weigh in” stare down posture, he should have been pulled out of the game by the scruff of his neck and sent down the tunnel by AW. An obvious immature schoolboy who thinks he is far better than he is. Let him fester on the bench until November to think about his action in yesterdays match. We dont need a “me” attitude anywhere in this system. if it is going to work, it has to work as a unit with emotional discipline. Theo, you showed me all i needed to know by that one move yesterday.

    Ramsey. I am sure many people on this list have endured injuries in sports, some horror injuries. I, myself, had a terrible dislocation of a shoulder playing hockey that required a couple of screws in my arm and a year off the ice. When you come back, you are never the same….i can only imagine coming off a horror break. How can you ever commit to the ball as you did before? He is young. He had a lot of talent, but without a doubt, he has not fully recovered from his injury, which requires both physical and psychological recovery. He best be rested. This is all too much too soon. I feel for him.

    The good. The back line. miquel and jenkinson not only held their own, they showed GREAT pace in being able to track through balls and with carrying the ball forward. They will make their mistakes surely, but for such a young duo, anchored by TV in the middle, they have a bright future for us and i think they answered a huge question that may alter the approach at buying players over the next two weeks…..

    Pong. say what you will about the red, but he made an important statement yesterday. This Arsenal squad will no longer just be on the receiving end of the physical play. And that, for the overall chemistry of this unit going forward is a key intangible. We have been pushed around hard over the past few seasons by bigger, more physical clubs. Viera used to pay that role and there has been a huge gap (Song has tried on occasion with little effectiveness).

    The match next saturday is going to be a real emotional test for Arsenal. It will also be one of the greatest challenges of AW’s career. He will undoubtedly have to manage a tactical plan that is quite different than previous trips up North. He will undoubtedly have at least one new purchased player in the starting lineup. That player should be very experienced and battle tested.

    That player should be Scott Parker.

    • Chris says:

      You raise very valid points mdspwt, especially on Theo, I was also extremely disappointed with the way he faced the referee early in the first half as if he was ready to cut his throat for not taking the decision he wanted. But it’s not just him, Henri Lansbury pointed his finger at the referee and others do it as well as a clear sign, as Hunter said, that our players lack discipline.

    • Dave says:

      Well, you got a manager who throws bottles, whinges and have a go at referees at every possible moment, the players pick it up, especially at their young age. A bit of monkey see, monkey do.

  • Clement says:

    It think its not good for any one to blame Emmanuel for the red card. The problem is that many of the Arsenal young players are struggling to impress the fans and therefore play under much pressure.Arsene should buy mature players if this pressure is to reduce. You also that this inexperience makes them commit so many fouls than before. So Arsene save and buy else you will see more suspensions.

  • Doc Face says:

    Nasri needs to leave the sinking ship as soon as possible…
    It is only the beginning of the crisis and the decline to darkness and to an anonymous status…!

  • billp79 says:

    this is what happens when you make an emotional decision in a business….letting Cesc go and not forcing him to fufill his contractal commitment…..everyone on the team will go mental now…why do we do it for him and not the rest? Yong players will ask the questions..their agents and the agents of rumored players coming in will now see ths as a stepping stone for their clients….of course we are a feeder club now that we don’t put our foot down on contracts…

    Walcott: 3.5 – Could’nt identify that the other team was keeping him on his right foot…triple teamed sometimes, he didn’t have enough sence to float back and or around to the other side. and what is with getting in the face of the ref on every call? pffhht.

    Wenger: 3- The players selected themselves but for the most part made his own bed. knowing how for some 3 year how his team was mental frail and on the physio bench more often than not…banked his chips….when Frimpong went out of control did nothing to call him to the side to calm him down and when going down to 10 men didn’t put Theo up top with Robin in a more resrved position…a waste of Theo’s speed…and perhaps shutting him up about a central striking position…which he doesn’t desrve.
    Perhaps now Arsene will buy defenders? If not now when? The prices will not come down now for anyone….phfft

    Ramsey: 4 – I agree Rambo appears not mentally or physically focused. He put himslf in bad positions and provided little cover for Frimpong who needed it desperatly. He was eager to go forward but defnsively players easily went around him. This is pretty much how we lost last season as our resrve team lacked cohesion…dark days ahead I’m affraid….5 games in and maybe out of 2 cup compititions?

    Arshavin: 3 – Complete rubbish today, but with all our first choice midfield out or sold or…what do you expect…a real good reason why Wenger should stick to his over 30 rule.
    I would have given Myiachi a go, but Frimpong (and lack of other defensive options) probably put the kibash on that…

    Szczesny: 8
    Vermaelen: 8
    Sagna: 8
    Considering the circumstancing in front of them they did exceptonally well. Professional which is what you would normly expect.

    Koscielny: A bad back….really …who would have guessed? Arsene?
    We will miss Kos in the next few games…1 point in 3 ames will not be nice to us from the disgruntled fan base fueled by the press.

    Jenkinson: 6 – Welcome to the big leagues…learn fast…please…

    Frimpong: 4 – Youth is not an excuse…he didn’t get to this level by going mental on the pitch…part of the reason why we cock up so easily… I don’t care if your 17 or 37…righ Jens?

    Nasri: 6,5 – He could have easily has asked not to be played…or feined injury..I think now he must realize we will not win anything this year…If I was him, I’d take the money…I’d praise Arsenal like Cesc, but I’d take the money…

    Van Persie: 8 – Like the back 4 his rating was about the same….we were always going to have a hard time finding him, which is why moving him back to central mid would have been the better option when Frimpong went out.

    (Subs)
    Miquel: 7 – I liked his performance, calm and collected and could not be at fault for Arron getting in the way

    Lansbury- Like Theo …he has to shut up..
    Bendtner- putting a slow taget man up front is useless being a man down, unless the other team is parking the bus….with only a frail one goal lead, Liverpool was not stupid enough to do that….which resulted in te 2nd goal

    • billp79 says:

      i should be a writer for FOX….they said the same thing over here….barton phhhft …stealing my shyt

  • Mr wong says:

    To be fair inexperience is just that. Only by getting games will our young players mature unfortunately we havent the same level of patience anymore. That was used up on bentner and denilison.

  • Emongolem says:

    Two matches, Two red cards….

  • Peter says:

    Frimpong has ability no doubt but his reactions to officials and the way he conducted himself on the pitch shows an individual who has a really poor attitude. Fire in the belly is a good thing but mark my words if he isn’t given some boundaries and discipline then he’ll spend as much time suspended as playing.

    • billp79 says:

      lack of discipline

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