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Either our tactics are wrong or player attitudes need adjusting.
Chamakh scores regularly for Morocco, and was a hell of player at Bordeaux.
Bedtner scores for Denmark, and looks a good player at Sunderland.
Arshavin plays central for Russia, and ruled Zenit.
Theo Walcott actually plays ‘ok’ for England instead of the complete fish we see at Arsenal.
Ramsay wins games for Wales yet costs Arsenal games.
Fabregas can’t stop scoring now..
Nasri has more assists in 4 games with City than a whole season at Arsenal.
The list goes on…
Another thing is they all come to Arsenal and start well enough but are followed by a dramatic decline. There’s something in the Emirates water.
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head says:
I think it’s something to do with how we train and indoctrinate our players into ‘The Arsenal Way’ and the Arsenal system. Raw, individualistic and unique players are all moulded to play the ‘Arsenal Way’, unselfishly, as a team, etc. But something is lost in the process.
Why is it that very few Arsenal players do well after leaving us?
I believe we are so intent on our system that the individual qualities of the players are lost in the process.
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Kdiesel says:
I agree with this comment 100% and have been saying the same thing to a few colleagues for a while. I believe individual traits are being surpressed in exchange for tip tap passing and constant off the ball movement; which doesnt seem to be working for this group of Arsenal players due to the lack of creativity, vision and (in relation to midfielders) polish!! I believe the players need to be a bit more dynamic and take the chances they have instead of looking for an extra pass.
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timao says:
i agree that arshavin should be played central but generally speaking the standard n the premiership is way higher than in international football, so it’s a lot easier for the likes of chamakh, chu, walcott and bendtner to get goals
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svevo says:
@timao
Btw, the name of the guy is Park Chu-Young. All East Asians have their surnames as he first part of their name.
And actually pretty much everybody knows this.
I dunno why therefore the Anglosphere ends up confusing the issue more by re-writing East Asian names by placing their surnames last ie. by giving him a “fake name” and rewriting it as Chu-Young Park.
And THEN everyone else gets confused and then thinks his surname is is Chu!
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kekuleh says:
‘Ju’ is what he wants people to call him by
he also chose Ju to put on his shirt-
Oh ok. I didn’t know that. Thanks for the info.
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@David – Muisleading analysis, only see what you wanna see
Chamakh scored 11 goals in half a season b4 going off the boil
Bentner has had many years at arsenal and not hit his heigths, scored 15 in his most productive season but lacks humility thinks he’s bigger than the club.
Ashavin has lost his hunger, simples
Theo is developing well and at 21 he will have his inconsistencies
Ramsey is 20 and doing well, had one bad game so what?
Fabregas is still the same super player he was at arsenal nothing changed there
Nasri had 15 goals for us last season, nothing changed.
Nothing wrong with tactics, we lost some quality players and brought in 5 new players that have to settle into the collective plat. It takes time, simples.
Tony says: Tired of all the negatives, I hope our players don’t read these never ending negative criticisms. Arsenal like any other club can have poor moments in varying degrees and durations, I have no doubt we shall come good.We have played most of the current campaign without last year’s regulars in the midfield ( Nas, Fab, Wil, Song/ Ate, Rams,Frimp,Coq), any team would feel the impact let alone Arsenal whose game processors is in the midfield.There is nothing with the way we play or improve raw talents, do you remember Henri ,Beck, pires, What about RVP? Arsenal football club revotionalised the entire English football philosophy. Don’t tell us there is something wrong with that. Arsenal made Fab and Nas better players, have you ever asked why Barca let go of Fab in the first place, would they have done the same for a seventeen year old Messi,Xavi,Puyol or Iniesta? Barca didn’t see him in the same mould as the others back then. Fab himself acknowledges this ” Arsenal made me who I am” I can’t wait to serve my humble pie humble pie come the end of the campaign.
Song is not going for the ACN.
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Tony wrote “I hope our players don’t read these negative comments”
Actually whether our players actually read these comments or not, you can be pretty sure, that they “feel” the negativity.
And in fact that this seems to have permeated pretty much all of AFC, including hopefully the Board who are the real culprits in our present slump.
Like all organizations, the feelings of the “rank and file” (the fans in this case) have a way of communicating themselves to the “upper echelons”. (cf eg. any Army, or any other type of (good) business firm).
So when Wenger says “the players” are lacking in confidence, how much is Wenger really just as much saying that is *HE* that has started to be having a crisis of confidence himself? As a manager you can’t have the start that we have had without starting to have *some* nagging self-doubts.
What I hope is that the AFC board are not actually as imperious and as impervious as they appear to be. Pretty sure Wenger himself has had some heated discussions with them. And he has hinted as much publicly, with his comments about the summer transfers etc
Maybe the AFC fans who live in London need to start taking their own “direct action” and start some protests *against the Board* at our home games? Whether this will have any *good* impact is another question though.
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