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Arsenal vs WBA preview: One last effort, before the break. Plus favourite line-up

Written by Chris on November 4, 2011 – 21:00

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The Game

Arsenal tomorrow welcome West Bromwich Albion at the Emirates hoping not to make last season’s same mistake.

I’m sure many still remember the embarrassing display at the Emirates from last season and why not, Manuel Almunia’s crazy run when we could only manage a draw against the Baggies in March away from home so as Robin said before the game, we simply cannot afford to switch off this time as we desperately need to get all three points.

Speaking of the Dutchman, I’m a little worried as we move on to the busy Christmas period and that’s because I’m very confused on Ju Young Park and how good he actually is.

Arsene Wenger is saying that he needs months to properly settle down at Arsenal but doesn’t this automatically classify him as a “bad signing”?

This summer we loaned out two strikers, Nicklas Bendtner and Carlos Vela, and whether you like them or not these are two players who have been at the Club for ages, two players who were supposed to enjoy what Italians call the quality leap, this year. Instead, they were loaned out to be replaced by a 26-year old who first of all needs time to settle down and two, apparently, will soon be gone because of military service.

Many are asking what, if Robin van Persie suffers an injury or needs a long rest? Our captain may as well be enjoying the best form of his life but he’s human after all and the Christmas period will soon be upon us.

He’s no Chamakh of course but we all saw what happened to Marouane, last year, after the busy Christmas schedule and with the Moroccan still a shadow of himself and Park needing “months”, who will replace the Dutchman when the Moroccan will be gone for the African Nations Cup?

The way the South Korean performed in the Champions League against Olympique Marseille was terrible and the chances he missed in front of goal had nothing to do with the time needed as his first time and his reactivity were very, very poor.

Hopefully I’m just overreacting but you all know me, I am a big fan of the “prevention is better than cure” statement and with Manchester City and Manchester United waiting in December and January I would prefer to know the answer before we actually get to play them.

As always, my favourite line-up is below. Remember you can submit your own at Arsenal Interactive and then share it on Twitter and Facebook.

Favourite line-up

But anyway, moving on to tomorrow’s game and I must confess that this is not an easy line-up to pick as I have question marks on almost all areas of the pitch to be honest.

I’m sure many will want to see Thomas and Laurent back together in central defence but I’m still concerned about the right flank as Carl Jenkinson again failed to impress against Marseille. He described his game as disappointing and even though we got away with it against the French side, sooner or later we will face a team who knows how to take full of advantage of the youngster’s inexperience.

A number of question marks also hang over the selection in midfield. After a fantastic game against Chelsea, Aaron Ramsey was again very slow against OM and Theo Walcott was no superstar either with the only Gervinho showing some consistency.

I was tempted to pick Andrey and shift Gervinho on the right but Theo needs time, and games, to show that the Chelsea game was not just a one-off. The Barclays Player of the Month for October will of course start up front.

Arsenal vs West Bromwich Albion

Three points are vital, of course, as it would allow us to “relax” a little in the last two games of the Group Stage.

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  • Chris says:

    That would be smart, considering Andrey admitted he has been disappointing lately, it would inject some much-needed confidence in him.

    • JHEEZE says:

      He’d be more motivated as well – let’s see what AW has under his sleeve!

  • mmmBammmbangggggghhhhhhhh says:

    my linesup…….

    ———————szny——————-

    jenk———–merta—kosh———-verma

    ——————-song B.———————-

    gerv——–arsha——rambo——santos

    ———-van the man of the month (hope man of the year in the end competition)————-

  • redsurfable says:

    prime time to face the baggies, with Long and Scharner both out, and with Odemwingie fifty fifty to start. Of course, Arsenal should be able to beat WBA anyday, regardless who starts, but it is always nice with a bit of luck. Would be nice to see one of the youngsters, i.e. Ox, Ryo, or Coquelin get subbed in later on to get them acquainted with the prem. We shall see. COYG!

    • soul says:

      we never need a time to face the Baggies (no disrespect but let us not disrespect ourselves) We are The Arsenal

  • Clement says:

    Great line-up.

    The feeling i have regarding the centre backs is that Metersacker, Kolschielny and Vermalen can play one with another. Provided the team stay fit, we will finish 3rd Sorry.

    The other thing that is nice to notice is that arteta looks like the player who passes the ball to the player next to his left or right (denilson type) but believe me, Song and him are the one screening that midfield. I can’t remember the amount of goals we conceded on counter.
    Don’t get me wrong. Fabregas is far better than Arteta BUT Nasri and Fabregas were those players making adventurous runs in the opposition penalty box and then coming back to our own half when the ball is in the back of our net. If you watch the Marseille game, you will conclude that Arteta understands the game and getting the ball off him is difficult.

    Do you remember Arsenal vs Manu (CL), Djourou chasing Ronaldo like a pig.
    Eh, Metersacker is slow and can’t cross the halfway line. Good news! Finished the goals consided on counter.

  • Bouba says:

    One word for this game: WIN ( nothing less nothing more )

  • dino says:

    I will say Wenger will give onether chance to Park playing infront Arshavin and Gorvinio and Walkot on the flanks and Song & Arteta in deeper role and Kos & Verm on the center to give Per much needed rest Jenkinson on the right and in Gibs not fit Santos …VP and Ramzi to come latter ..what you think Chris ?

  • Scott (USA) says:

    I think Wenger will opt for Jenks or Djourou at right back. Has Kos played RB for Arsenal? Don’t remember seeing him there but I think he could. Depth at the CB position. Very nice. The rest looks probable. Why are there some who seem to think Santos is unfit? He is more fit than Gibbs but I don’t see people questioning Gibbs who has been on the DL more than off of it.

  • alex says:

    This is going to sound strange, but I would like to see Jenkinson at right back. He needs premier league experience and this game is an ideal opportunity to give him a shot.

    • soul says:

      solid and on-time

  • Arsenal14 says:

    I think Kos has played great in the last couple of games he’s been in. Arguably, he’s been our best defender so far. He seems to be hitting top form or just about getting there. AW has to be wise about that and make sure that he gives him enough playing time even with both Met and TV fit. This could be a really good season for him I feel if he is given chances to play.

    Also, was anyone else really a bit let down by Park’s performance on Tuesday or am I being too harsh?

    • sam says:

      park scored only one goal in 2 games thats not bad for a newcomer please give him time.
      personally i was hoping wenger will start him with arshavin upfront as they cliked well the week before.

    • Scott (USA) says:

      Yes Park was a little off but so was most of the team. Some more than others. It would be fair to give him some time. How many minutes has he played? Not that many.

  • Rookie says:

    Wenger knew about what would be needed on Park before he signs him, and I think he has a plan. and if things DOES go wrong, Gervinho is versitile and said he can play in the center, so we can shift arshavin back to the wing and walcott, that would be a good temporary strike force.

    • Chris says:

      Gervinho will also be involved in the African Nations Cup.

      • Scott (USA) says:

        Is that when Ryo gets his chance? Or will that be filled by Arshavin?

      • Gus says:

        What do you think is our best team during the ACN? Who should replace Song and Gervinho?

        • Krazy Glue says:

          Song will not be goign to the ANC since Cameroon is not participating I believe. Perhaps the OX will get his chance when gervinho is out.

        • D says:

          Song won’t go as Cameroon did not qualify, I think. As to replacing Gervinho, it will be a hard call but I think Ryo will get his chance then. Wenger recently said Ryo will be ready in January and may be he has that in mind. Arshavin could also step it up and prove to himself and everyone else he still got it.

        • nix says:

          i think song won’t be in ACN as cameroon has’nt qualified…

        • shafi says:

          Song is going no where during ACN since Camaroon has not qualified. This is a positive to us.

  • sam says:

    remember we all gave up on theo until he met cashley cole
    its pathetic the way people are complaining about our new comes especially andre santos without realising how does he communicate with a german and french centrebacks or russian and an ivorian in front of him.
    it normally takes up to 6 months to catch the essentials when you are learning new language but as footballers are fast track with some special lessons i believe maybe 3 or 4 months maybe we will start seing the best of him. and of course, in england left backs don’t run forward all the time leaving a massive gap behind. he has to get used to that as well.

    • Aussie Jack says:

      It always concerns me when we bring in players who struggle with the English language. Even if they have a basic knowledge of English it`s often not enough.
      When I first went to Highbury a language barrier was never even considered a problem, the team came from England, Scotland, Ireland and Wales. The only real problem was the internationals when the entire Arsenal team was either playing at Wembley or Hampden Park leaving the reseves to look after Highbury. Those were the days!

  • Aussie Jack says:

    What you`re saying Chris is we need a right full back and a striker in January, but I know and you know ,if we get anyone at all he`ll be a midfielder with a name I can`t pronounce.

    • sam says:

      fit again bacary sagna will be like a new signing in january
      i don’t think arsene will spend money for a new right back

  • Mark says:

    Chris, missed your write-up from Wednesday’s match.

    I agree loaning Bentdner out was not the best idea with our backup options for RVP right now. However, I do think it’s too early to write-off Park as a bust. He has obviously shown what he can do against top teams as at the World Cup, but when you haven’t had many matches for a long time it certainly takes a few to get your timing back. I’d like to see him get some time on Sunday after we build a lead hopefully to get some confidence, but I have a sinking feeling it could be another close game.

  • tonygunner says:

    Why are people already talking about January signings?
    Our injury issues are impossible to predict.
    Why not enjoy our present situation and be optimistic.
    It will immediately become evident what our needs will be when the injuries occur.
    2 prayers: RVP stays healthy. Jack makes it back in January.

  • david says:

    I have to remind u that for ashavin to start,its better we use yossi on the right with oxlade on the bench 2 replace him,walcott in the middle and gervinho at the left side.and then ashavin can replace gervinho.and arsenal needs vela now.I think poldoski should be in the club as well,and chamakh has 2 travel to everton 4 a long loan spell.and also johan should start as right back against wba along side with per-ver-santos.and also I think we nid ashavin or rosicky to start behind rvp.than ramsey.this is my view

  • david says:

    I strongly believe that arsenal should sign 4players in jan.a striker(poldoski),a midfielder(granero or adam johnson),a right back(van der wiel)and a center back(samba or mexes)

  • D says:

    I don’t get it, last year you questioned if Koscinley was a good buy over and over again, but he impressed time and time again and got even better this year. Now you are questioning Park’s quality and he has only played 3 games, so don’t you think that’s a bit early?
    I understand we lost two strikers over the summer but they failed to take their chances when given, may be not Vela as he wasn’t given as many chances as Bendtner; but still. Park is a good player and if he gets a good run of games he will come good. He is no RvP but he still is a good player. I would rather have him all year long than Bendtner who missed that golden chance against Barca that would have taken us through to the next stage. Stay positive, and don’t be hasty to judge this players, give them a chance to impress.

    • Chris says:

      Last year I was saying that Laurent Koscielny was not ready and some of his mistakes including the fatal one in the Carling Cup didn’t prove me wrong. Also remember that the season is not over yet so the jury is still out.

      As for Park, I’m not sure if it’s early or late, remember that in two years he’s gone, for sure is that it seems every year we go out there with one or two players who need “two to three years” to finally get “there”.

      As for Nicklas, yes, he was given chances but more than 50% of these chances were on the right, pretty unfair to judge a player on them.

  • ike@Ghana says:

    We cant afford the cost of not bagging in all the three points. I think Ramsey Theo should take a rest. AW could pick from Andry, Rosicky AOC and Frempong.We need to also get about three goals in the first half so that we can afford to let our captain rest after 70 mins.

  • Pierrot says:

    Sure, Park didn’t give a good account of himself on Tuesday but then again, most of the team weren’t helping him much too. He didn’t really get good delivery from the midfielders and the one good chance he had in front of goal, the first touch was disappointingly too heavy.

    What I’m sure though is that Park is a much better option than Chamakh. The Korean instinctively knows how to position himself in front of goal with good movement and won quite a few strong headers on his end (which ironically is what we expect from the taller Chamakh but which he is sorely lacking right now). Most of all, Park doesn’t shirk away from taking the ball and going for goal, whereas I’m extremely tired of seeing our Moroccan always choosing to pass back to another player whenever he receives the ball. This alone tells me that Park will be the one scoring more goals once he gets more playing time.

  • :) says:

    In my sense, Ramsey should be given a break, as after all, we don’t want to overexert him and result in another Wilshere situation. Arshavin and Rosicky should be given a chance to play in midfield.
    Of course, Coquelin or Frimpong may also be given the opportunity to play alongside Song, granting Arteta a free reign upfield. However, I believe that Arsenal will look to maintain possession and dominate the midfield in this game, so starting creative players like our diminutive magician and Little Mozart would be more adept.
    In the front three, RVP will most definitely retain his place alongside Gervinho, with Walcott as well to terrorize their defense. I don’t think there’s much of an argument here right haha..
    But most importantly, it’s our defense that matters the most. If I had my way, I’d start Vermaelen and Koscielny with Santos and Jenkinson on either flank. West brom will have their game plan revolve about counterattacking and set pieces, so having two central defenders that can respond and rapidly close down opposition is imperative. Perhaps this is the main reason why I didn’t go with Mertesacker, as the speed of this game wouldn’t suit him too well. Besides, since his arrival, he has started every single game, so leaving him out of this weekend will give him a much needed rest.

    Alright Arsenal, let’s win this game!

  • jayjay says:

    i have a feeling that arteta will score today. oh and for park, i have watched him play for a long long time, and i have got to say that if he consistently starts 3-4 games in a row, he will get you goals. his movement is fantastic but just needs to get used to the pace of the football in england. his finishing is excellent, and i think he should come on today, around the 60 minute mark.

  • Jack Mo says:

    You are grossly overreacting about Park Chu Young, I have seen him so many times and he is a decent player, very technically gifted and a superb goal scorer.
    Yes he was the striker against Marseille but he was not the one guilty for us not winning the game, It was Aaron Ramsey as he twice failed to score when clear on goal and enough times he delayed the final ball to either of Gervinho and Park. I am not criticizing Ramsey, but to blame Park for that draw in the same page that you praise Ramsey and put him in line up is what I disagree with.

    Requiring time to adapt is not enough to call someone a bad signing, Don’t make the same mistake that every newspaper was making in November 1999.

    Today, lets hope we don’t face any Nigerian as history has a way of repeating itself, it was Kanu in 2005, then Odemwingie in 2010. Whoever they decide to field, we simply can’t let them anywhere near winning.

    With the squad you have up there, I can dare to dream of a 5-0 win

    • Chris says:

      Where did I blame Park for the Marseille draw? I decided to write something on his individual performance ahead of the future, regardless of the result achieved.

      And I put Aaron Ramsey in the line-up because he paid me. No, seriously, it’s for the same reason, the future. We cannot go on with Aaron one day, Tomas the other, Andrey one day, Theo the other, we desperately need to find the right formula, today before tomorrow.

  • Kevin B says:

    Koscielny will not be picked at right back when jenks is fit, Wenger would never do that (he knows not to mistreat young players and knock their confidence).
    Personally I would like to see Rosicky start in place for arteta. He brings more to the plate and gives arsenal a much needed urgency to win the ball back.

  • The boy John says:

    If Jenkinson is fit he should be in at right back he will give Walcott better support than either Koscielny or Djourou in attack, playing defenders out of position is tantamount to suicide. Meretesacker deserves a rest, I think he has played more games this season than any other outfield player. Koscielny and Vermaelen at centre back, Santos left back.

    Song, Arteta and Ramsey, why break up a successful combination.

    Walcott, van Persie and Gervinho for the same reason.

    Naturally tthe worlds number one ‘keeper Sczsceny.

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