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Arsenal vs West Brom, 3-0: Full time analysis and player ratings

Written by Chris on November 5, 2011 – 20:50

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Arsenal eased their way past West Bromwich Albion as we can go into the International break with all three points and of course, a big smile on our faces.

Some will say that we are beating opposition that we are expected to beat and that’s true, can’t argue with that, but last season we struggled against West Brom and we struggled against way too many teams that we were supposed to beat so I want to archive this win as a massive result knowing that the players will return from Internationals determined to continue the positive run.

What stood out of today’s performance is of course the solid defensive performance of the central pair. The last time these two played together was months ago but it seems as if it was yesterday that they last teamed-up together.

And, after years and years, we are finally in a position where we know that if one of them suffers an injury, it will not be a Silvestre or a Squillaci to replace them but Per Mertesacker first and Johan Djourou then as I believe that the Switzerland International can rediscover the phenomenal form from last season.

In midfield, the Gunners were impressive as well with Alex Song doing his dirty work to help the defence in an exceptional way and Aaron Ramsey and Mikel Arteta delivering assists and scoring goals, which is just what we need from these two.

And offensively, when you have this Robin van Persie in your starting line-up, let’s face it, there can only be one result. One goal, two assists, fantastic movement off the ball and another man of the match performance from the Dutchman who fully deserves all the awards he is picking up.

As for the Baggies, I didn’t expect them to be dangerous when going forward as without Peter Odemwingie they lose 80% of their offensive department. And poor they were as they will probably again spend a season fighting to avoid relegation but that’s their problem, not ours, as we collect our 19th point in the English Premier League table.

To conclude, we indeed start fourteen days of non-Arsenal football with a big, big smile on our faces knowing, however, that as Arsene Wenger correctly said in his post-match press conference, there’s still room for improvement but compared to a month or so ago we are in a very strong position and can look forward with optimism and confidence.

As always, whether you agree with my ratings or not, submit your own at Arsenal Interactive and make sure to share them on Twitter and Facebook.

Match Video Highlights

Match video highlights are available in the Videos section of our website. If not there yet, rest assured they will be up in a matter of hours.

Player Ratings

Szczesny: 6 – Quiet game for the Poland International, very quiet actually, but glad to see that he was ready when West Brom had half-chances late in the second half.

Koscielny: 7,5 – Fantastic, yet again. Made a number of impressive blocks and not shy to surge forward as it was the case in the second half when he could have easily had a goal-scoring opportunity after a super run down the right.

Vermaelen: 8,5 – Confidence, aerial power, pace, interceptions and goals, this is what you get when the Belgian is in the side. What I really loved about him today, however, is the number of “intelligent” fouls he committed to break West Brom’s attacks. Top class.

Jenkinson: 7,5 – I lost count of all the brilliant crosses he delivered from the right, just fantastic, all of them incredibly dangerous, as a clear demonstration that he is indeed our best crosser in the side. Problem is that we don’t really have the players to play a crossing game but who knows, if the Lukas Podolski rumours are not just rumours …

Santos: 6 – So and so from Andre. When you consider that West Brom’s only two chances in the first half were the result of poor positioning from the Brazilian who allowed them to deliver dangerous crosses and also gifted them another cross opportunity with a poor header in the second half, well, you just can’t archive Andre’s game as a positive one.

Ramsey: 7 – The one to deliver the lovely pass for Theo when we taken the lead, Aaron was again heavily-involved when we surged forward as he continues to improve.

Song: 7 – As said in the introduction, Alex was exceptional today as he allowed Aaron and Mikel to help the offensive department as he stayed deep, doing what he does best.

Arteta: 8 – Brilliant performance from the Spaniard who was calm and collected when on the ball and was almost always precise with his passing game(curious to know how many passes he completed). The goal ended a fantastic move as Mikel shows that he knows how to hit the target and score goals.

Gervinho: 6,5 – I was disappointed when the Ivorian was substituted as he was improving after a disappointing first half. In the second, he indeed produced a number of very good runs down the wings and was a huge asset when we pushed forward.

Walcott: 6 – Should have maybe done better when we took the lead but like Gervinho, Theo improved in the second half although I still have that “not enough” feeling on his performance.

van Persie: 9 – Made no mistake to give us the lead in the 21st minute of the game, the one to volley-assist for Thomas when we scored the second, great turn in the 59th minute in a move ended with Aaron shooting wide and fantastic with his movement and his pass when we scored the third. Chapeau!

(Subs)
Rosicky/Benayoun/Arshavin: 6 / 6.5 / 5.5 – Tomas tried and was involved in the move that led to the third goal. Yossi, I believe, was fantastic on the ball but Andrey was disappointing, especially with his final ball.

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  • simon says:

    at the risk of sounding like a fanboy (okay, well, i just am)

    only an 8 for vermaelen (as opposed to RVP’s 9)? he was a key component in all 3 goals

    for the first one he made a brilliant interception from behind but was fouled in the process, that quick free kick led to the first goal

    he scored the second

    his through pass cut through half the field and half the opposing team, allowing our offense to get inside the box without a problem

    then there’s the tackle on the guy in the box who would surely have scored from there, as well as numerous great defensive displays

    to me, he was impeccable today and i’d definitely rate his performance as high as RVP’s

    • Chris says:

      Let’s agree on 8,5, I indeed omitted the Somen Tchoyi block :)

      • simon says:

        works for me :D

        • Hunter says:

          I would like to see Vermy a bit more with Per to see how they get on as a tandem.

          @ Skavorn – Wilshire’s expected return date is February which in Arsenal language is code “for he is out for the season.”

          • Skavorn says:

            @Hunter Lol,thanks for answering

            • Berk Face says:

              He reckons he’s training again in mid December… but he will need to do his pre-season and then reserve matches and then sub appearances before Wenger plays him. So February not a bad bet… assuming no setbacks… this is Arsenal afterall. Our 5 key players – Szczesny, Vermaelen, Song, Wilshere, Van Persie – one missing Aug-Oct and one missing Aug-Dec at least. Killer.

  • Northbanksy says:

    If Wilshere come back from injury with the same appetite & fitness as before, there is no contest. He is one of few, rare truely creative players who is gifted with the ability to see the game unfolding a split second ahead of other players. Before he receives the ball he instinctively knows what his options are & his movement on & off the ball is such the he creates openings that others wouldn’t. His tallent is what makes the difference between a “good” player (like Ramsey) & a “great” player. (like Fabregas).

  • mike_greece says:

    They are really different kind of players. The most interesting question is “who is better, Wilshere or Arteta?”. Arteta is playing Jack’s role in the starting 11. When Wilshere gets back, this will be a selection headache for Wenger also keeping in mind that Jack will probably be a little “rusty” after such a lengthy spell on the sidelines… On the contrary, I believe Ramsey’s place in the starting 11 is guaranteed, at least for this year. Thus, it is a good opportunity for him to play and improve, provided of course that he stays fit…

    • Ross Sargent says:

      Totally agree! It’s not Ramsey or Wilshire, it’s Arteta or Wilshire! For me it’s similar to another comment, Arteta is very good but Wilshire can be great!!!

      • right_mr says:

        In my view arteta is indispensable. He is putting some magical performances in. I think arteta will always be first choice because of his top class all round game. Its a question of wilshere vs Ramsey…

  • kelly says:

    another move in the right direction.we can appreciate what the experience of the likes of santos n arteta brings to the team;calmness and a sober approach to the game.this has to be the most comfortable match played by arsenal this season.great goal by vermaelen,that was refreshing,though some of his fouls/barges could have been booked on another day.
    glad to see better movement and decision making from ramsey,gervinho n walcot.technically this has to be the best performance i have seen from walcot.jekinson did indeed deliver good crosses n was more composed in his duels.

  • RodGoonerInTtown says:

    Great result, Chris, Im glad u werent harsh on Song this time ;)

  • Zac says:

    I think ramsey’s performance was poor. He gave the ball away on few occasions. He lacks the pace and the dribbling skills that would make him a creative midfielder. His defense was not great either. Vermaelen, koscielny and jenkinsson were all immense today. Song as always was great. Arteta needs to be more creative for a midfielder….

    • meditaion says:

      This is a great video of what encapsulates arsenal.Pass it around. It needs to be seen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vivpSjkePHA&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL

  • Metalhead says:

    ” One goal, two assists, fantastic movement off the ball and another man of the match performance from the Dutchman who fully deserves all the awards he is picking up.”

    The goal that Vermaelen scored, was off Gervinho, so the assist went to him and not Van Persie.

    This is the second time Gervinho has provided an inadvertent assist, not to mention a whole bunch of other assists where he knew what he was doing. Samir who?

    • Hunter says:

      This is no surprise actually. Gervinho leg Ligue 1 in assists last season while helping Lille to the title.

  • well done arsenal.clean sheet , 3 goals, not bad at all,van percie on target again.nice to see arteta get a goal today.up to december our fixtures look winable.

  • Jojo says:

    I thought gervinho still did enough to deserve a 7,with his clever runs and dribbles he’s settled in quite remarkably,maybe our best summer buy,but andre santos has to work on his fitness i think he gets tired easily,jerkinson had a good game but the verminator,vantastic,and arteta were pure class..this was actually the first game in a while we were up by 2 and i didnt think we’d lose it.

    • Hunter says:

      Santos wouldn’t be so tired if he wasn’t making runs all over the pitch. I would like to see him time those runs better so that they are more effective and he isn’t gassed when the opposition has a chance to counter.

      Definsively he is about level with Gibbs but in attack he is leaps and bounds better.

  • Northbanksy says:

    A little harsh on Santos, especially as I’m sure it was Ramsey giving the ball away in mid field that was the cause of one of West Broms first half chances.
    Very pleased with the result of course but this was a very poor West Brom performance which I think should have been punished more heavily goal wise. I can’t think we’re going to face many easier teams this season.

  • GoonerB says:

    I love Laurent Koscielny but I have to adore Thomas Vermaelen.You feel abit more confident when TV5 is playing and like I said on tuesday,if we want to keep as many clean sheets as possible our central defence partnership should be between TV5 & LK6.Just wondering what the team would be like if we added Hazard,Goetze,Marvin Martin & Mvilla.Unbeatable is the answer.

    • Rookie says:

      How would all those players actually fit together, it makes no sense just putting up a line up based on transfer rumors with no real truth to it. Might as well get Messi up front and Christiano Ronoldo on the wings. Instead of naming 30-40m transfer players, why not a midfield with Wilshere, Arteta/Ramsey, Song? I see the future Xavi/iniesta/busquets in there. Koscielny and Vermaelan were very good, and Mertesacker will be great with either of these when height and intellegent positioning is needed.

      • Hunter says:

        I have a sneaky feeling we might see Gotze here in January. I don’t think we will go for Hazard. He has his heart set on Madrid and we don’t need any more players at the club who are pining to be elsewhere. I woudn’t be surprised to see Arshavin on his way home in January although I would hate to see him go. If we brought Gotze that would give Theo a chance to play through the middle when Robin is rested.

        • slugboy says:

          Any time I’ve seen Theo in a central position he has been hopeless. Can’t see this ever happening. I agree Arshavin will probably be off in Jan to be replaced with a proper striker.

          Team playing well at the moment and in Kos, Verm and Per, I see a rotation policy that will work and will keep the guys fresh.

          I have always loved Song and Arteta shares the defensive responsibilities. Ramsey hot and cold.

          Jenko is looking good on the right and Santos has already scored more than Clichy ever managed for arsenal – shame he’s a bit rubbish at defending.

          Keep it going boys

          • Hunter says:

            I think Theo might be better if he actually had a run of a few games there but I take your point.

      • Pat Rice says:

        As one person mentioned about what a nice feeling we have knowing we have Mertesacker and Djourou(who I think should be replaced by Vertgohen) as back up if either TV5 or LK6 got injuried.
        Now imagine with only Gotze and Hazard in the team.
        We would have perfect back up or a nice starting line up plus AOC also in the mix and then we slowly integrate Ryo.

  • Byo says:

    Ramsey is finally coming into his own. The combination with Arteta sitting deep is just what the doctor ordered. There seemed to be so much communication amongst the 3 MFs when on the attack, that the back line was not left exposed. Song/Ramsey/Arteta deserved an 8!

    And Walcott is growing into a more complete player, what with his defensive duties. The decision to have Verm/Kos in the CD paid off, as they were never caught out for speed.
    Great performance today.

  • Gunner4lyf says:

    This current team seems to have the defensive tenacity which was missing in the teams over the last 4-5 years. Although, they were brilliant going forward, they didn’t know how to kill off games. I think that’s probably one of the many reasons why we haven’t won anything. Great teams know how to finish off games. Huge credit should go to Arsene Wenger for singing Mertersacker and Arteta and of course getting Benayoun on loan. I’ve already noticed a palpable difference in the way we defend during the dying moments. Earlier, there used to be a lot of panic but now with so much experience around we seem to be killing off games better.

    You may look at someone like Arteta and think well what did he do? And then you look at his stats and you are totally awe struck. Arteta made a whopping 94 passes. That’s insane!!! What someone like Arteta does is he ensures that the ball is not lost easily. That comes from experience, something I felt we didn’t do when Fabregas, Nasri, Denilson and Diaby were playing. They were brilliant going forward but when it comes it comes to shutting shop, they were clueless.

    Just for record, Arsenal made an amazing 721 passes compared to WBA’s 372.

    • Pierrot says:

      Absolutely agreed. Arteta may not be super creative, but his first-class distribution and work-rate often free up others to attack the opposition from various angles rather than through one single point. Works the same way when we lose the ball and have to defend.

  • tddhh says:

    Arteta completed 96 passes bt most were short passes , d whole team completed 592 while west 103

  • Mark says:

    I thought you would have docked Wojo for his errant goal kick that went out of bounds in our def 3rd :-)

    This was a very comfortable game, we didn’t create a great many chances, but were never in danger of losing the match and the 67/33 possession advantage (what the ESPN boxscore showed) seemed so much more than that. Another solid game from the three in the middle as Ramsey and Arteta have really started to limit their turnovers which were a problem with them both early in the season. Walcott again did not do much and continues to do that one push the ball to the right move with the one positive he gets from it is maybe winning a corner kick. I would like to have seen Rosicky or Benayoun get the start today for Walcott. Hopefully both will get a couple of games in over the break to get some game fitness in as neither has played much lately.

    The best thing from today’s match is to see Vermaelen play another full match with no apparent setbacks and to see him paired with Koscielny for the first time. Can’t remember the last time Wenger had a true decision to make each match at CB.

  • Pierrot says:

    Excellent team effort today, everyone played their part in a win that further exemplifies the growing character of this squad. Must single out our defence for praise… Kozzer and Verm never looked like letting anything get past them, definitely my first-choice CB pairing.
    Jenkinson, what can I say, the boy protected his end like a lion and ran his heart out to deliver some of the best crosses we’ve seen in a long while. Not sure if anyone else noticed, but even Santos reined in his attacking instinct today to defend deeper.

    Also feel very happy for Arteta. He’s had some undeserved stick just because his playing style is not as flashy as Cesc or Nasri. What he’s done is subtly added a whole lot of efficiency and tightened up things in the middle, something that the Spaniard and Frenchman did not really bring to our game. Now our midfield runs like an well-oiled unit rather than rely on one or two individuals to carry us through.

    Let’s keep this up, boys!

  • reuben says:

    Arteta completed 93 passes with an accuracy of 90% . Ramsey completed 72 with an accuracy of 94%.

  • george rodger says:

    Vermaelen: 8,5 – Confidence, aerial power, pace, interceptions and goals, this is what you get when the Belgian is in the side. What I really loved about him today, however, is the number of “intelligent” fouls he committed to break West Brom’s attacks. Top class.

    How we can condemn other teams for rotational fouling and commend our own is beyond me
    It is nothing short of cheating no matter who does it.

    • gulla says:

      @ Rodger……U having a conscience attack, mate?

  • rvpfab says:

    Arteta completed 93 passes with an accuracy of 90%. So he attempted more than 100 PASSES!! after a slow start he finally seems to have come good and though he may not be a cesc at this point he provides defenders more cover with his clean tackling and shares the distribution burden with ramsey.

    is it me or are people excited about a ramsey/wilshere partnership? 2 young british players with loads of talent and creativity supplying to rvp and theo! Now that would be incredible :)

  • Chris says:

    Uh, slowly my friend, I am not praising Thomas for making nasty tackles from behind to hurt the player and end his game, I am here referring to intelligent fouls to stop the opposition in their tracks.

    This is what top-class defenders learn to do, it’s not nasty, it’s not malicious, it’s on the edge of a booking offence, it’s intelligent.

    • george rodger says:

      No its almost cheating.

      • mike_greece says:

        it is not cheating to defend. It that’s the case let’s all play with 10 attackers and see who scores more goals. Fouls are an important aspect of the game, a weapon to break the opponent’s attacking rhythm and moves. To win in football you have to destroy your opponent’s game (when you defend) and overcome the opponent’s defence (when you attack). Cheating would be for example to try to physically hurt your opponent. And let me tell you, I personally prefer my team winning 0-2 (or 0-3 as was the case today) than 3-5 or 3-6…

        • george rodger says:

          Foul (sports), an unfair or illegal sports act

          Foul play is not a tactic or a weapon .See above

          • Satz says:

            Then i guess no football player should be considered fair.Every football player has committed an intelligent foul just to break the opponent’s play at some point of their life.If it’s not an intelligent foul why dint the referee book him..?So lets leave it to the players on the pitch as they exactly know whatever they are doing..Cheers and please for my sake just enjoy the win and not sit and whine..Go Gunners!!

          • MKEGooner says:

            They’re called “professional fouls” for a reason. If they were “unprofessional” or “unfair” then you’d expect to be red-carded every time.

          • Shashi says:

            For me breaking a rule on purpose is cheating. I despise it when other teams try to stop our players by fouling them (yes, any kind of foul, not just fouls that are intended to physically harm). If a foul is committed by accident then I can accept it but for me the idea of ‘tactical’ foul is cheating. Just like Suarez’s handball to prevent the goal was cheating for me.

            I agree with you George and I am surprised and disappointed that Arsenal fans are no different in class than any of those other fans of teams like Manu and Stoke and Bolton.

            • slugboy says:

              You have obviously never played the game if this is your attitude. Minor fouls are within the game and that’s why we have free kicks yellow cards and red cards. Professionals will try to win and to do this they have to live on the margins of what is lawful. If you ever watch rugby it is the same – how much unlawful play can you get away with.

              The distinction I would make is when people try to harm other players, which is despicable.

              You mention ‘class’. Football is a gentleman’s game played by thugs. Rugby is a thugs game played by gentlemen! Its the common mans game.

          • Gooner King says:

            I don’t think you understand football. Not everything is cheating, you’re so naive!

            Class defenders know when to slide, stay on your feet or take a booking for the team. And especially when to slow down the rhythm of the game.

            The Art of defending, nothing malicious.

            Watch Vidic, Carvalho and Kompany, for example. The do it all the time, they are top defenders.

          • tosyn says:

            George, I guess what you set out to do on this blog is to discredited arsenal win. Even great players do commit intelligent fouls. I’m beginning to think you’re not an arsenal fan.

  • visionary says:

    competent performance from the team, ashavin the only one that there is a question mark over, lets hope some of the new recruits don’t adopt the attitude that if he can get away with laziness well i should also
    hawk big respects for stream links, top man u are

  • Erik the wiking says:

    With Nasri and Fabregas in the squad we had problems with the WBA-team last year – dere there any problems today ? I have no problem with saying this TEAM is munch better this year – let us see what the results can be…

  • Emmanuel moses says:

    What can I say? Improved team performance and excellent result 4rm a team dat was written off a couple of weeks ago. D prof has once again proven how classy he is, up gunaz

  • guy says:

    I am a bit bemused by your ratings.

    I really thought vermaelen was poor today. what you call tactical fouls i call stupid reckless fouls. he kept bundling into the back of people when there was no need to. and he missed a glorious header opportunity

    Kos was brilliant. an easy 8. i cant even describe why or where he deserves an 8 but that tells me how good he was that it wasnt patches but the whole match he performed

    santos wasnt that poor. im not saying he was great but you need to compensate for his few errors in defense with what he did going forward. he is like an additional midfielder. everytime he goes forward you know something can happen. id give him a 7

    agree with jenkinson and song ratings. swap your ratings your gervinho and walcott. thought gervinho was poor his first touch let him down so often and he ran into brick walls a lot.

    now for me ramsey and arteta both deserve higher ratings. i thought they were outstanding. the first game ive seen them work well together. quick, sharp passes and dynamic movement. great pairing. i even started worrying who goes for wilshere when he returns but that 2 months away so i stopped thinking

    • Chris says:

      I don’t want to sound disrespectful and I apologise if my message comes through as such but you need to watch more non-Arsenal football if you believe that Thomas’ fouls were unnecessary. One of the reasons why we’re so vulnerable when the opposition counters is indeed because there is nobody that does what Thomas did today, stop the opposition before they can start the move.

      And then the referee showed no cards as far as I know, he didn’t even warn him so why not take advantage of this?

      This is just what Parma did weeks ago away against Napoli and they won the game because they frustrated them and that’s because the referee was lenient in the first half and they took advantage.

      This is how it works, show the strikers that you have the no entry sign up and that you’re ready to do anything to stop them.

      • Ben says:

        Hi Chris, I thought I’d pop back in after what has been an incredibly busy year.

        WIth regards to the Vermaelen fouls, I think *some* of those fouls were smart, tactical ones. When it’s 2 on two (or even three on two) on the halfway line, I agree that if you can’t get the ball cleanly, it can sometimes be worth fouling someone. Song is the other player who gives away a lot of niggly fouls to break up opposition attacks.

        On the other hand, it’s always a risk with Arsenal’s appalling defending from set pieces, and lets the opposition off the hook when the Gunners are camped in their half. It just depends how dangerous the break is, i.e. 2 vs. 2 or 4 vs. 2. In the former situation you’d commit a strategic foul, and in the latter you probably wouldn’t.

        My point is that I’m not sure you could class all Vermaelen’s fouls as ’smart’ ones. I recall one, around a minute before half time, when he went through the back of Cox and gave away a really daft foul around 25 yards from goal. That was anything but a ’smart’ foul. A couple of other times it was 4 on 2 and he gave away fouls, simply by being too impatient to win the ball back. In those situations, his fouling actually lifted the pressure on WBA.

        In all honesty I’m not convinced that the fouls were done to slow the game down (maybe one or two). Vermaelen is just a full-throttle kind of player, who will try to get in front of the attacker. That level of aggression will mean he wins a lot of tackles, but also means he will give away a fair few fouls and sometimes get caught out of position (as we’ve seen in the past). Still a great player though.

        For me, he was outplayed by Koscielny today, and I would switch their ratings around.

      • WJ says:

        totally agree with Chris.

        These fouls are needed to win football games.

        just like you need to be “intelligent” to win penalty kicks.

        take full advantage out of the games rules and referee’s leniency.

  • Duke says:

    Am happy we are steadily climbing up the ladder from the bottom of the table against all odds, very soon we will end up top of the table hopefully with a trophy this time. This is my prayer for us this season.

  • oldcure says:

    Passing percentages today Ramsey 94%, Jenks 93%, Koz 92%, Santos 92%, Gerv 92%, RvP 92%, Benayoun 92%, Arteta 90%)

    • salparadise57 says:

      such a stat, I feel, says more about WBA performance than ours..

  • WC says:

    Can we move Arshavin on yet? Is anyone convinced that he was worth the club record fee? How many more times do reviewers have to write “was disappointing” before we realize he’s just not cut out for this team and this league. He doesn’t have the endurance for the pace of the game. He’s a 100M sprinter trying to win a marathon. All he does is run into defenders, loses the ball and doesn’t give much support to his full back. Sure Arshavin has skill and talent but this just isn’t the place for him – he’d do much better in Italy or Spain where the game is more technical and slower.

  • LA Goon Squad says:

    Great Win. Now we need PARK or CHAM to step up and play well so that RVP can get a rest. Arshavin should be paired with Park when he plays. Defense looks solid compared to earlier this season. Arshavin/Park instead of Gervinho/Park, as they have found success together and would have more confidence knowing they can play together. It’ll be interesting to see what we do in JAN. I don’t wanna rain on anyone’s parade, I for me I have a nagging feeling that if we bought some players we might mess with the Team Rotation and Chemistry. This team has really found their direction, and I don’t know if adding another piece to the puzzle is gonna help more than hinder– at least this year. I’m for adding pieces, but maybe not til next year. But that’s just me. Great win gunners.

  • mdspwt says:

    Great result and what is most evident now is the amount character this team has….the leadership and effort we see on the pitch is once again growing and with Jack and Bacary around the corner suddenly we look deep.

    The only negative i will pull from the game is watching Arshavin/Rosicky trot out there and make the same mistakes over and over that drove us crazy over the past year. I dont know, maybe Wenger is hoping to showcase them before moving them in January but to me they both exemplify the old guard, a rough patch of football we all would soon rather forget. Less passing, inaccurate passing, and, in Andre’s case, that silly little move to the right between three guys where he gets knocked down and loses the ball OVER AN OVER again….to be fair, he didnt have alot of quality minutes on the pitch but still…the game itself saw a return of out technical passing game (albeit against an opponent the gave us tons of midfield space) which Arsenal displayed in the Chelsea contest.

    I also like what Santos brings to the pitch. He is a big personality, has very quality technical skill and looks quite dangerous offensively…the run he made in the second half was a goal waiting to happen its just that the pass was a touch heavy….but its nice to see someone who knows how to time and make a proper run through the opposition defense from the wing…he will certainly score more…..the pluses out weigh the minuses……

    • Adam says:

      Unfair on Rosicky. Thought he was very good off the bench tonight and was. Wry involved in the third goal. AA looks down on confidence but why focus on the negatives? We’re on a good run!

  • summerbreez says:

    I noticed we defended as a team today was glad to see varmalin score it was a beautiful move

    We needed the win i could say we were brilliant but then our opponent were weak and with a result of 3 0 it should have been 5 0 but song missed ramsy missed and varmalin missed so we wear a little short from being excellently brilliant

  • jason says:

    Almost last on MOTD just ahead of Liverpool what a insult!!

    They try not to acknowledge us cant you all see like tonight they didnt even go into detail of our game.

    Doesnt really matter one way or another we will finish in the top 4 exactly the way we was meant to.

  • Wat a great game… This side is rily composed and the fighting spirit is visible 4 all to see. I think gervinho is a big plus to the attack because he has this way of cancelling any defender be it 2 or 3 together…who needs samir afterall? I think sagnareliables injury was a blessing instead of a curse cuz carl has rily grown in confidence…he is not afraid to surge 4ward either which will make him a great player and his crosses awesome…i knw evn if sagna returns and he is relegated to the bench, that confidence wld have already been built. I cn’t blive he jst cost 1million quids. This is a much improved side character wise. Don’t you all think wenger still got it in him and deserves an apology 4 all d sticks directed at him… He is d best in wat he does.. Love 4rm Nigeria.

  • danigunner says:

    wow the emirates rocks!! i love to see the emirates so full

  • rascal says:

    Winning teams like Barca combine great team displays with impeccable individual displays and well, i’ll be damned if that is not exactly what we are showing at the moment! I don’t care if the Verminator sweeps the legs out of an opponent, as long as he is not getting booked or allowing them past him then let him be! That’s his job. Vidic plays the same way although he racks up quite a lot of bookings
    ION, we don’t really need a signing this Jan but I wouldn’t mind a trophy/marquee signing i.e. Hazard or Gotze. We don’t really need them but who says Arsenal can’t flex our humongous financial muscle?

    • kelly says:

      no we need a back up striker bad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.no disrespect to park but hes another version of walcot while chamack has been awful. coz we have struggled thus far with two games a week situations all season. i won’t mind an A-list playmaker,though that can wait till summer if cl is guaranteed next season.

  • GoonerB says:

    Chris you don’t even have to so as far as Italy to give an example of the proffesional fouls.One person who has clearly perfected that art closer home is non other than Nemanja Vidic.Let that guy who is complaining about Vermaelen’s fouls have a look at what Vidic does,and hasn’t it worked wonders for Manu?.That’s why Vermaelen and Vidic are among the best defenders in Europe if not the world.Its because you don’t give the strikers the chance to turn let alone receive the ball.

  • Gooner King says:

    Arteta is playing Jack’s role bc Jack is not there, obviously. Why are people assuming Arteta can’t play behind RVP? Thats his natural position at Everton, as the main playmaker.

    On current form, id go with Song, Jack and Arteta playing in the apex of a midfield 3. They are our best.

    I’m Ramsey’s biggest fan but his passing has become way too sloppy, and has a habit of losing the ball in dangerous areas. Arteta doesn’t do that.

    Arsenal’s first defence is possession.

    I think while Ramsey matures into the Fabregas role, I’d go with Arteta, esp since he has goals in him.

    Btw, should Song miss any games, Vermaelen would be an awesome DM for us. The guy is incredible. I hope he stays fit.

    • winn says:

      I dont see Wenger playing Vermaelen in a DM role. We got Frimpong, who needs games to develop. Also Coquelin who had man of the match perfomane against Spurs. But he is not getting league or champions league action. I do not see why Verminator should ever play DM when we have these kids that are good and can become great, given minutes on the pitch. Ramsey is getting better and he needs more games, i believe soon we will forget Wilshere while he recovers. Arteta has been great. Santos is a likeable player but its schizophrenic with him at the moment, brilliant and awful moments in a single game. On the balance , he is doing well, a tad better than Gibbs imo. Anyway Gooners , nice to go on this break with a HUGE SMILE!! and i got feeling Arsenal will peak at the right time this year!! unlike past seasons when November – December signifies a decline !!!. I just want to say thIS AGAIN, I DO NOT BELIEVE NASRI WAS A MAJOR LOSS FOR GUNNERS AT ANY POINT!!.

  • R Nyambati says:

    A little bit too harsh on Theo. The last two games he has shown class and he is on an upsurge.

  • Am says:

    Once again a bit harsh on Walcott and Arshavin.

    Andrei had a good chance pretty much as soon as he came on, he made it out of nothing.

    As for Walcott i believe he was just as good as Gervinho.

  • Pierrot says:

    “And I still think Arsenal are the most beautiful club in England. At Man City and Chelsea, they will never have that class and style.

    “Arsenal have the most amazing stadium, they have a style of play, they have a beautiful shirt – in every way I consider Arsenal as the ultimate football club.

    Van Basten, what a legend. Love that bit about the shirt!

    http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Arsenal-striker-must-never-leave-the-ultimate-football-team-says-Marco-Van-Basten-article827666.html#ixzz1cvNnMxj8

    • Tomos Ifans says:

      What a genius comment by Van Basten – read it earlier and it warmed the cockles – “Love that bit about the shirt!” – is also genius in my humble opinion. Just need DB10 to reiterate the sentiments and it is a done deal, if you know what I mean.

      Wenger’s third team – could have done so much but for a variety of reasons did not. CF4 is from Barcelona, it’s as simple as that – Wenger made him the player he is – 4 years ahead of where he would be but CF4 is also a genius, which helps – I reckon he may of owed us another year or two but 8 years service is till 8 years of service. Top marks all round for Cesc – a gent. Nasri can go himself – he only gave us half a good season – Gervinho is far better for us – penetration with a Funkadelic haircut – who can argue with that? The answer is no one.

      Wenger’s fourth team is what excites me – the man is a genius – again, it’s as simple as that – Van Persie (capt.), Wilshere, Ramsey, Ox, Ches, FrimSongCoq, Ryo (trust me, genius), Theo, Verm, Stan, Per, don’t with me Bac, do cross for me Jenkinson, the Brazilian/English connection, the “are you experienced” new guard – gotta love them – not to mention all the the age groups being schooled in Wengerball/Arsenal DNA. Vive la Revolution.

      The future is bright. The future is Red and White (and I don’t mean the holding company).

  • Jaysixx says:

    I wonder what would happen if we played Chamakh upfront when Jenkinson deliver his crosses….

  • TT says:

    The definition of a foul in the rulebook is that a player is careless. In this case Vermaelen was a little more agressinve with his tackling and took more risks making challenges.

    If they were deliberate fouls, he would have been carded for each one. If they were reckless and showing a disregard for the safely of the opponnent then he would be carded also.

    I think what Chis wa ssaying is that he liked Vermaelen taking risks to try and win the ball higher up the field and breaking up the play, either by winning the ball or giving away the foul, not that he deliberately fouled to gain a tactical advantage.

  • Scott (USA) says:

    Vermaelen was key to WBA not being able to find any kind of rhythm. Continually disrupting their play. Always making it uncomfortable for the player receiving the pass.Really nice to have him back in the squad. Even made a great burst forward to nab a goal. I think Santos was solid again and seems to be finding his role with Arsenal. His passing game is very good and creative.

    • Berk Face says:

      Vermaelen is the best at every defensive discipline you want to name in the Arsenal squad – heading, tackling, positioning, guts, leadership, in possession. He got a lot of stick from people that don’t have a clue because an on-fire Drogba had a good game against him. Well Eto’o & Torres both had good games against Vidic – the best centre forwards in the world on their games are a nightmare to play against. Vermaelen is the best we had by a mile and will, injuries allowing, show again that he’s one of the best defenders in the PL.

  • cesc says:

    I though chesney had one of his best games for us against West Brom.
    He didn’t have much to do , but what he had to do he did well. None of his mad moments:dashing out like an headless chicken. He looked very solid. hope he can keep up the good work.
    Tremendous prospect.

  • merkan says:

    This is a little off topic but I have a few queries that may interest some fellow readers. It’s about the membership scheme at Arsenal.

    Me and my Dad were looking at tickets for the Man City Carling Cup game and signed up for Red Membership to get tickets before the general sale rush, so, my Dad forked out £40 and on we went looking for tickets, found some and lo and behold our plan hit a brick wall. Little did we know its one ticket per member! Never mind we said, we will keep the membership and wait for general sale. Looking for tickets during general sale was a waste of time, couldn’t even get 2 seats side by side. I bought one and am traveling alone for the first time, exited!

    So enough about the whole yiddy yadda story. I started to read about the schemes and it turns out for a father and some to go to a game both require membership. Also when buying multiple tickets you have to have a ‘network’ within Arsenal. So here is my idea, we should all network each other, obviously only if you are in fact a member, and there for be able to buy oneself and others tickets, of course being paid in return. The ONLY issue I can think of is members not being confident in mailing their cards around. Of course this is quite unlikely but could be handy when tickets are hard to come by. In any case, networking one another doesn’t cost anything anyway!

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