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Arsenal vs Fulham, 1-1: Full time analysis and player ratings

Written by Chris on November 26, 2011 – 23:30

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Arsenal could only manage a draw, at home, against Fulham as they failed to take all three points from the Emirates Stadium.

To start with, chapeau to Fulham, they didn’t sit back when they had the opportunity to surge forward, created a number of chances and were dangerous throughout. Also, it was nice to see Philippe Senderos enjoy a solid game at the back, he did exceptionally well against Robin this afternoon.

As for the result, I don’t want to archive this draw as a disappointing result as the players have been doing well for a number of weeks and sooner or later fatigue had to play a role. Also, when you have an effort cleared off the line and Mark Schwarzer produces a phenomenal save to deny Johan Djourou, well, you can’t really call these chances missed ones, can you?

Having said that, my only concern is that with Arsene continuously saying that he has a big squad at his disposal, I was disappointed to see that only two changes were made when the likes of Aaron Ramsey and Mikel Arteta looked like two who needed and need a rest.

The two mentioned above, as well as Andrey Arshavin were very disappointing and one has to wonder what Yossi Benayoun has to do to earn a regular place in Arsene’s formation as I believe the 31-year old would bring more on the pitch as he is of course more fresh than the Spaniard and the Welshman.

As for Andrey, fatigue is not the reason why he didn’t perform and as I said weeks ago I wouldn’t be surprised if he leaves during the January transfer window. I mean, you know that Gervinho is now the regular in the side, you get a chance, and you blow it like this? Shame.

But anyway, again, the scoreline is a disappointing one but I wouldn’t overreact as this will hopefully make our manager understand that if he really has a big squad as he keeps saying then it’s time to use it. Yossi Benayoun, Ju Young Park and why not, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were signed for a reason and the reason, hopefully, was not to warm the bench.

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Player Ratings

Szczesny: 6,5 – Overall quiet game for the Poland International who was however ready when called into action, such as when he made a brilliant save in the 41st minute to deny Clinton Dempsey.

Djourou: 7 – Pleasantly surprised. Johan, as we all know, is not at all comfortable as full back but today he was incredibly solid as he produced a wonderful block in the 5th minute of the game and was full of confidence when we surged forward, going very close on minute 73 with a header.

Vermaelen: 6 – Uncharacteristic below-par performance from Thomas who was twice easily-beaten in the first half with Fulham going close. Inexplicable, the way he tried to clear the ball when the Cottagers took the lead as he however bounced back immediately when he headed the equaliser on minute 81.

Mertesacker: 6 – Substituted in the 68th minute of the game, Per had a good game in central defence.

Santos: 7 – Brilliant start to the game as he made two very good interceptions in the defensive department but struggled against Bryan Ruiz as the game progressed(getting a yellow in the process) and this is a big worry going forward. Offensively, however, he was excellent as he tried his luck from long range and turned provider with a number of good crosses, when required.

Ramsey: 5 – Disappointing. Make no mistake, Aaron, lately, is making a number of very interesting runs in the box, placing himself in great positions but unfortunately he was today very poor with his first touch or final shot.

Arteta: 5 – Also very disappointing as I believe Mikel and Aaron are starting to show signs of fatigue which is not a good sign considering that the Christmas period is fast approaching.

Song: 6 – Sit deep and helped the defensive department when Fulham entered our half but was still guilty of giving away possession on a number of occasions. Did well, in the 6th minute, to find Andrey Arshavin who found Aaron who had his effort saved.

Arshavin: 5 – Produced a fantastic finish on minute four only for his effort to be ruled out for off-side, great pass for Aaron in the 6th minute of the game with the Welshman having his effort saved and then … vanished. With Gervinho warming up after only 30 minutes one would have expected Andrey to improve in the second half but he didn’t.

Walcott: 8 – Top class. Phenomenal run in the 23rd minute of the game concluded with a very good pass for Aaron Ramsey who missed. Right-footed effort on minute 25 saved by Mark Schwarzer, good cross for Robin on minute 33 with the Dutchman heading backwards for Andrey who missed and more of the same in the second half as he delivered the cross for Thomas’ head when we equalised and produced another very good pass for Robin minutes later.

van Persie: 6 – Sooner or later his run had to end. Overall, Robin’s game was a good one as he produced the pass to Andrey for the aforementioned moved on minute four and had an excellent effort cleared off the line on minute 58.

(Subs)
Gervinho/Diaby/Chamakh: 6,5 / 6 / No Vote – You could see that we improved when the first two came on with Gervinho adding pace to our moves, showing why he is one of the most important players in the squad and with Abou not shy to dribble his way into the Fulham penalty area. The Moroccan only played 15 minutes but it was great to see him tracking back to win the ball, showed heart.

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  • Felix says:

    Chris, thanks for the great work you are doing on this site. Please keep up the good work.

    Now back to the match, I am not pleased with the outcome of the match. Even though the team has been on a good run, we are still 6th on the Table, and dropping points against teams in the bottom half of the table isn’t a good sign.

    Our defensive frailties are a cliche and it looks like we just can’t keep a clean sheet. I don’t know what needs to be done, but I know in football, if you don’t concede goals, you won’t lose matches.

    On a positive note, I was happy to see Diaby dribbling his way around, and Charmakh looked sharp and hungry too. Hope they both start against City on Tuesday

  • Canada Gunner says:

    I watched Arshavin today thinking this should be his chance to really shine and prove to Wenger he needs more starts and can be a dominant player…..I now think he has already bought a plane ticket to Russia.

    The team looked tired but AA should have looked much more lively. A 5 is generous for his overall blah performance. He should have been taken off at the half.

  • Unbeaten 49 says:

    Arshavin has been always one of my favorite players, but unfortunately he’s now in my list of players who have to leave the team alongside Squilacci and Almunia . That’s shame.

  • danigunner says:

    I only can say: Arshavin wants to go! he doesn’t deserve another chance on the pitch…
    I couldn’t imagine him in an away game… it’s time for park and for Oxlade-Chamberlain instead of the Russian.

    And im not against Arshavin but… he really vanished the whole second half.

    • uz says:

      Just a bad period for ashavin.I still believe in his qualities.
      Sometimes i feel the russian has lost faith in Arsenal as a whole.
      Like someone pointed out,maybe he has already bought a plane ticket back home..
      Would be a shame to see him leave.in my opinion,he is a world class player.
      AW should use Benayuon.If not then bringing him here is not justified.
      Arteta as far as im concerned is not a skillfull player.Arsenal need to bring in more players come january.You could clearly see that Aaron ramsy is not yet what we make him out to be.I really wonder what will happen is Robin gets injured.Lets face it,this team is lost without him.We are where we are today largely because of him.Mr AW sadly has no bearing regarding the success of this team.
      I still feel that this team will be better off without AW even if they finish top four!

  • reality check says:

    subs were a bit too late i think. Rambo had a stinker. No st totts day this year then i suppose.

  • Soccer surf says:

    Aaron is too slow. We have so much potential but he slows the game down which is not his job. Can’t wait for jack. Also Aaron needs to at least test the keeper from 6 yards out as he is paid a lot of money. Gervinho came on and changed the game. I don’t think Andre has anything left and should be sold. Use his minutes to give yossi a chance and or groom aoc. Gervinho and Walcott on the wings switching sides causes havoc for defenses. If it ain’t broke don’t fix it!

    • jeff.n says:

      I agree.. Ramsey just dwelled on the ball too long when he should have just passed the ball with one or two touches.. he tried not to lose the ball by keeping the ball away,but it didn’t help us to score..

  • big ernie says:

    I wouldn’t put Walcott as high as 8 … also think that Ramsey had a better game than Arteta, Ramsey didn’t have his shooting boots on today, but at least he put effort in – Not impressed with Arteta at the moment, he’s supposed to be the creative midfielder and he’s not imposing himself in the games. I think he will lose his place soon unless he pulls his finger out ! As for Tommy V, he’s been our rock and still was today, unfortunate that he scored in his net, but how many other players would get themselves up the pitch to make amends ? .Thought it was worrying when he took the full force of Rise free kick on his ankle and then started limping, lets hope there’s not damge….

    • Rookie says:

      By creative midfielder….do u mean splitting the defense wide open. Thats not Artetas job, thats Ramsey’s (hes been doing it quite well considering his experience), Artetas job is to sit deep and controll the flow of the game, which he has been doing.

    • NepaliGunner says:

      I do not think it’s fair to Arteta to be called the most creative MF. He is being compared to Cesc by many, but he is a different player, and as such, to expect him to be the creative hub is not right. He is more of a box to box, deep lying midfielder, who keeps the game going, and has done very well. Today wasn’t his best day, but he has done well and I think deserves his spot. I see him rotating with Jack Wilshere once he’s back, but Mikel cannot be considered a bench player in this team.

      And Ramsey definitely had the worst game I have seen in a while, just gave the ball away so much and always ran into trouble. Him and Arshavin were the two players that disappointed. Others were ok, but our ball movement was just too slow.

    • richie says:

      Too many can’t see Arteta’s strengths! He ain’t Cesc and he wasn’t bought and brought in as Cesc’s replacement, if people could look at him as Denilsons replacement it would serve everyone better. Gilberto was our invisable wall Cesc was a midfield General, Arteta is somewhere between the two.

  • Cameron says:

    It is a big squad but its a squad that needs more quality. I wouldn’t say we have a great strike force apart from RVP, no real winger to come in when Gervinho and Walcott need a rest, no creative midfielder to come in. We were tired. It was always going to be a hard game. We have been in great form and this does happen. Sadly we are competing with Liverpool, Spurs and Chelsea for 3rd and fourth. Having had such a bad start we are already in a position where we just can’t drop points.

  • Chris M says:

    We needed a win today but the run the team has been on for the last 2 months we have to accept we are going to have a few off days, your rating for Djourou was spot on he had a great game but most of the team was off the pace. I think we need to let Arshavin and Chamakh go in January and get a good striker in because we cant just rely on Van Persie to score every game and we need another winger because we have no real back up if Walcott or Gervinho get injured. I hope arsenal fans don’t get to down about today’s result because the team has put in some great performances lately, we have topped are Champions league group which is better than we did last season and are looking much stronger in the League .

  • RodGoonerInTtown says:

    About time this article came up, i didnt see One mid week, i always look forward to this one, great ratings, I think Song deserves better and I think RVP needs a rest as well, Man City on tuesday sounds scary but with high spirits this team can beat the shiite, hopefuly Wenger will leave Scezny in goal for this one

  • Aussie Jack says:

    Fatigue played a part in this game but it was `bad luck` and `Mark Schwarzer` who spoiled Arsenal`s chances today. My MOM.

    Full credit to Fulham they seem to have learned from watching Arsenal replays and like other sides were fast to intercept Arsenal passes.

    Arsenal`s determination in the second half was cogent and deserving of at least two goals. Mertesacker was replaced and I think there`s a good case for chasing Vertongen.
    Djourou was impressive at full back and Gervinho is a bud that will flower after Christmas..

    Carling Cup next. Play the youngsters Arsene and see what happens, picking up three points against Wigan is more important.

    • Rookie says:

      Mertesacker was replaced to get in Diaby and start attacking, not because of his performance. He did very well in the game. It was just fatigue that slowed our game down.

    • Canada Gunner says:

      Agree. I really thought Djourou played a solid game and have always felt Vertoghen would be a great signing.

      Also, if Ramsey had a little better speed and finishing,the game would have been over at the half. Is Rosicky still injured?

  • sam says:

    thats 2 points lost, we always struggle when arshavin starts.
    arsene should know that by now but he claimed during the week that he’s feeling sorry for him. i hope he’s feeling sorry for chamberlain too coz he could have done better.
    by resting gervinho he could have replaced him with another livewire, not a lame duck.

  • RodGoonerInTtown says:

    Theo Walcott is finally living up to the Hype around his name, his first touch, dribbling and crossing are massively improving, now he needs to get bigger and stronger, add that to his pace and he will be complete.

    • meditation says:

      walcott was the only one who seemed assured. I think the champions league game took its toll. I love vermaellens fight but he is not the best defender. Maybe thats why he plays leftback for his national side. konscielny and per is more balanced. I have been worried about verms play since he has come back. He tries to challenge for every ball and gets exposed. loses a lot of headers or even if he wins them because there not commanding headers we become imbalanced. He is not tall enough for the aerial battles and he gets too tight leaving the chance to be turned or gives too many dangerous freekicks away. I think he was part of arsenals old problem. He is getting better but should he be playing week in week out? Arsene doing best for team or players? Its obvious it he should have swapped gervinho for arshavin but after arsenes comments midweek he avoided hurting him.please. Arshavin is abrahimavichs puppet . He looks like he was on p e s’s ,now he is not. Just my opinion. Back to vermaelen. Is it a surprise a manager(jol) identified him as the weaker point in the team today and not mertasacker. Mertesacker plays chess with his play while vermaelan is a reactive player. The difference between a winger mentality and a centre midfield mentality. Another reason why he doesnt press when players are about to shoot. Konscielny ran from rightback last week against norwich to try and block a shot that should have been the centrals defenders job. Good game though from a tired team.

      • albaniangooner says:

        are you serioz about vermalen ? vermalen is a fantastic player, one bad game dont make him a bad player. with header he is great, he is apsolutely one of the best in the EPL, to make you sure about it, i sugest to watch the game against liverpool again.

      • Faris says:

        Seriously? Vermaelen is not our best defender? Footballers are humans too. Even the best defenders make mistakes occasionally (Vidic, Terry, Kompany, Hummels etc.) I would want to believe he lost his focus a little, due to the fatigue caused by that tough match against Dortmund. In fact, almost everyone looked jaded. Would you rather have him in our side or squillaci?

        He plays at left-back for Belgium as they don’t have a proper one yet. He certainly has a degree of pace, attacking & defending quality to play in that position. It’s probably a temporary measure but we all know where he plays best.

        I’ve followed Vermaelen’s progress ever since he came in our side in 2009. He is agressive & direct in his defending. He wants to attack the ball first and nullify the danger before the opposition gets any attacking ideas. So if he does not challenge for every ball, how is he going to do what he does best? On so many occasions, his defending style has broken down many potential attacks from opponents & i’m sure many would agree with me. In fact, i’ve seen Vidic on many occasions do what Vermalen does.

        Loses a lot of headers? His headers are not commanding enough? He’s not tall enough to win aerial battles? Who exactly have you been watching?? Why don’t you head to YouTube & search for Vermaelen vs. Liverpool, Vermaelen vs. Newcastle etc. Some Gooners have been compiling his defensive performances this season and I can assure you he does not lose headers very easily.

        Many defenders need to get tight in order to nick the ball away from the opposition but they need be confident of their upper body strength & recovery pace so that the opposing striker won’t turn them. I think Vermaelen is confident of his own abilities there, which explains why he gets tight sometimes.

        Sometimes, we need to take drastic actions to stop opposition attacks, thus resulting in free kicks. I think Chris once mentioned that Vermaelen has the ability to give away ‘Smart’ fouls that were needed to break up attacks. If any player gives away a free kick, it is the responsibility of the whole team to defend that set-piece, not solely Vermaelen.

        Arsenal’s old problem was not solely the defence. We play a high-line & sometimes the midfield does not track back. Defenders need support from the front players to defend collectively and ever since our revival, we have seen just that. Based on i’ve seen, I think the team is improving in this respect.

        Apart from his defensive duties, he is also a natural leader. He leads the back line well & has been professional in his demeanor. This is very important to a team as you would not want a team mate to show negative body language. I think this rubs off to the players around him as well

        I could cite many, many instances where Vermaelen has a been pivotal part of our defence. But if you think Vermaelen is not good enough, then I respect your opinion.

        But if you’re going to slate him just because he did not perform that well in 1 game, I think it’s unfair. Furthermore, he made amends for his mistake.

        Right now, we should support the team. They need us.

  • Adm says:

    Arshavin as usual, was really dreadful. Please take someone who wants to play at maximum effort.

  • sam says:

    arshavin brigade will always give me the thumb down
    the dude is past it, wake up and smell the coffee he gets picked ahead of our youth because he’s arshavin and scored 4 goals at anfield 4 years ago, thats right, 4 years ago.
    it will be a tragedy if he’s still here in january. it means our top younsters will still be rotting in reserves.

    • Langers says:

      It was April 2009, so NOT 4 years ago…….that’s right it wasn’t 4 years ago!

      He has been very bad though, granted

  • JHEEZE says:

    I want to see Park Chu Young and Chamakh up front, and play a 4-4-2 midweek. Coquelin with Frimpong in CM, and Benayoun&AOC on the wings.

  • Hunter says:

    I don’t think you can fault Santos for the yellow card. That was one he had to take for the team because we inexplicably tried some stupid short corner routine that resulted in a Fulham counter. Had he not intentionally handled that ball we may well have lost the match. He still definitely needs to improve but for me he is better than Clichy and Gibbs so I’m not complaining.

    Djourou was excellent. Did all he was asked and then some.

    Per also excellent. Was never really troubled and had it not been for TV5 putting through his own goal it would have been a clean sheet.

    Aside form that the only other player who didn’t look leggy was Theo. The rest looked like they need a week off.

    Let’s hope the gaffer opts for the kids midweek so the rest of the squad can get a break.

    One more note……good on Jack Wilshire and Carl Jenkinson who stood out in front of the stadium collecting donation for Save The Kids. Also to the rest of the players for donating today’s wages to the same charity. Always nice for players to help out a good cause.

  • John says:

    Arshavin has to be sold in January. Chamberlain has to start if Gervinho is to be rested or even play Benayoun.

  • The Don says:

    Nice To See Theo showing how good he is week in week out
    his starting to be just as importan as v perise and vermilen for us.
    his still young a bit more time for him he will be destrying deffenders.

    It was not a great game for we looked slow and half asleep
    only when fulham scored we woke up.
    and its not the first time we have done this, we always seem to get fired up when we let in the first goal.

    Arshavin, lost us the game in my opinion.
    his has over 40 games and been below par on all of them.
    when gervinhio come on he looked a diffrent class to arshavin.
    i rather someone like alex or ryo get a chance then arshavin.

    Ramsey didnt do to bad lets not be so harsh
    he put his heart in the game he was all over
    he needs to learn to shoot from v perise but he done well to get him self in right place.

  • Scott (USA) says:

    Overall the ratings seemed fair.Santos is getting a little better every game he plays. A very solid game and I thought did well defensively. Bryan Ruiz can be difficult. He kept him out of the box. Djourou got a little close to his own defender and ball watched a little on Fulhams goal but overall a very solid game. Ramsey and Arteta looked fatigued but so did Arshavin who should have been fresh. Diaby I thought looked very good in his brief time. Probably should have come in earlier. A great push in the last ten or so. I really thought we were gonna grab the 3 points but Fulham hung on.

  • swazigooner says:

    The boys did look tired and its understandable. Those germans were not a push over.
    It was a very physical game.
    That being said i must say im sad to say arshavin’s time at arsenal could be coming to an end. I was also expecting a push to get back into the starting line up. And saw no spark from the russian. We were also unlucky with the chances that were saved, overall i am happy to stay unbeaten. We still have a long way to go

  • jason says:

    Theo is improving :)

  • Shari says:

    I had a feeling before the game that it’s not going to be that easy with Fulham. In fact I was anxious that we might unexpectedly lost the game. We played Dortmund only 4 days ago, wasn’t an easy game either. Our players gave their all out performances in that game and I was worried that they might feel burn out and fatigue. My feeling turned out to be true. We lost some of our pace, passing accuracy and sharpness in front yesterday.

    But yesterday’s result wasn’t all due to our condition. Fulham did very well defensively. They were solid, well organised and very discipline at the back. If not because of their solid display in the defensive department, we would have won at least by three goals. And, I have to say this, had Vermalen not made that defensive mistake which led to his own goal, we would also have won the game, don’t care if only by 1-0 as long as we got three points. But then I have to accept it, we drew, got only one point. Well, I should see the positive that at least we didn’t lose as we were very close to it.

    I hope we will do much better on Tuesday with City. And I hope Arsene will rest Robin in that game as he clearly needs it.

  • Mark says:

    I’ve been worried about how many matches Arteta has played since he joined in late August, he needs a break (though he did get one over the int’l break) as does Ramsey. Hopefully with Diaby back he can get back to form and provide a rotational option in the middle for Wenger (Rosicky too if he can get healthy).

  • summerbreez says:

    To be honest they played really well i enjoyed the match but MR wenger gambled and fielded tired players even they didn’t look that tired he didn’t need to do that i don’t know if rosciky was available but beayoon was any way the match is well over now and now we have a bigger headache as the players ran their socks off for 30 minuets or so unfortunately we now got a dilemma
    who is he going to field on Tuesday the same payers again i suppose lets burn them to the ground attitude he is demanding to much from the 11

  • arsenaluz says:

    Agree with your ratings chris must say i feared for this fixture coz full credit to Fulham they are very well organised and its always a tough fixture for the gunners. Hell, all league fixtures are difficult but some clubs its always a steeper hill to climb(Everton at Goodison or Newcastle at home come to mind). Coming from a midweek game fatigue comes into play and takes away that little bit extra that the players need.
    Hats off to the boys coz they had to dig deep today, would have liked to get all three points but ill settle for one. The most dissapointing player has to be Arshavin. Suffers from a lack of confidence at the moment. Feels like he is trying to force the issue and when it does not come off he’s got his head down and sulking the rest of the match.Perhaps Zenit will be more accomodating to his work ethic i feel but for the gunners that will not do.
    The months of December, January & February and what separates the wheat from the chaff. Where there is no hiding behind fatigue as fixtures come thick and fast, every three days and one week is tougher than the last as all top tier teams are in the latter stages of every cup competition.
    Will be interesting to see how the squad handles that hope we have better luck with injuries during that stetch

  • Shafiu says:

    The problems with this game is that Fulham were under rated by Coach, players, fans and writters. No one expect anything less than win.

  • Vickie says:

    You are saying fatigue this and that nonsense. What was wenger thinking by starting arshavin? If he wanted to give him play time, he should have waited to play him in our next champion’s league match and not in epl. I just knew the best we could get from that match would be a draw when man utd drew newcastle because over the years, we have always failed to close the points on the leaders whenever they drop points. Arsene was aware of the score line and still opted to start with arsh and even while everyone saw the nonsense arsh was doing on the field of play, that even song had a confrontation with him at s stage, wenger was blind to see that and should have brought in gervinho earlier. Van persie couldn’t score yesterday because while he dropped deep into our half, there was no one making any runs for him on the left side and pls tell ramsey to find time and watch fabregas clips. Ramsey’s decision making is just too poor, breaking our attacking flair and slowing our counter chances are not acceptable. I blame wenger for our loss in this match….

    • mike says:

      Spot on.

      Arshavin is useless – more than useless, by the way he joggs around the pitch and never trecking back to help out, he has a negative impact on the game.

  • Lid says:

    Am I the only one who thought djourou looked like a turnstile in the lead up to the own goal??? Real bad defending letting ol man risse run straight past him and hunt the ball! I know the blame lies with the verm but I for one am much more comfortable with kos at the back…

    • Scott (USA) says:

      You are correct. Djourou ball watched on goal. He marked his own player tighter than the Fulham player. He played well though I thought except for that play.

  • jeff.n says:

    Ramsey dwelled on the ball way too long.. yes he made some good runs,but he simply lacked creativity to be a playmaker.. in that case,we missed Tomas Rosicky last night.. probably,Wenger should have brought Yossi Benayoun instead of Chamakh..

  • terry says:

    for city line up like this:
    flappy
    djouru kozzer vermy santos
    aox frimpog coquellen yossi
    arshavin
    chamak

    i strongly think if arshavin is plyed behind the striker he can be one hell of a players…
    AOX and yossi are fast and tireless players they would do very well on the wings
    frimpong and coquellen are both def minded and this would not require arshvin to fall back every time… AOX has amazing crossing ability and i still believe chamak is one of the best stikers in the air.
    we play 433 and we are doomed against city … we play this 442 or as you call it 4411 we may stand a strong chance against them.

  • Arsenal fan says:

    Give Andrey a break, sometimes I think he rather playing awayfr home given the stick he gets. He has as much talent as anyone in our squad (bar maybe RvP), it’s worth trying to get him to his peak.

    • Canada Gunner says:

      He has already peaked!

    • Scott (USA) says:

      He needs a long break . Really long….

  • Kanishk says:

    I think Arsene just missed a trick in this one with the rotation thing. Yossi should have played in place of Andrei/Ramsey. Yossi has always done a job for the team whenever he has come on without a consistent run in and one has to wonder when he will finally get a chance to shine. Andrei just doesn’t look interested and its shocking considering his place has been taken by Gervinho and yet he isn’t working hard.

    But overall the defense was solid again apart from the one unlucky OG. And Santos was top class, we really should let him go more forward or heck even use him as a left winger when we rest Gerv and when Gibbsy is fit.

    Overall not too dissapointing though. Just felt the team needed a rest and Arsene perhaps overdid playing with the squad in form a bit too much.

    Lets beat the Mancs now. Will be good to see Samir playing in the Carling Cup side xD ;)

  • Surprised says:

    I’m not sure how many of you agree with me. I have been an admirer of arsenal playing attractive football. Ever since fabregas n nasri left. I have not start watching until recently against Fulham. I am not impressed with what I see. Definitely its not the same Arsenal i see, its a different class if level. The defending, the attacking, the spacing left for opposite teams to exploit. Its just not on the same level anymore. Theres alot of work n rebuilding need to be done.

  • William says:

    Even if you take away both the goal and the own-goal, Vermaelen did not have a good game today. He still has a tendency to get caught far up the pitch when he doesn’t need to – I think Szczesny’s only real save was after Vermaelen tried to close down a player for no reason and was caught out. Not to bash on Vermaelen, he’s a very good player, maybe our best defender, I just think that this game shows some of his deficiencies that people tend to ignore when they talk about him.

  • Giddygun says:

    Now, walcott has matured. I now prefer him to shoot more. He’s got level shot. He’s a total golden package now anyway. Wenger wasn’t wrong to start AA, AA has eliminated all doubts now he has to move on. Kanu moved on like this when his hunger and speed didn’t meet up to our topspeed requirements. As for tv error, no hard feelings. He is still a top dog!

  • zekeh says:

    ramsey was extremely poor for entire 70 minutes….i dont agree with the ashravin rating…as wenever he got the ball he tried making runs in the box…if u would observe ramsey did not pass a single ball to arshavin in the first half…less feed so less output….
    ramsey was flop of the match . ramsey stil needs to be crisp. he plays incesc role he needs to run d game and not theo.
    good subsitution made by wenger to earn a point.ramsey stil needs to be crisp.except for theo vs riise rest all individual battles were lost
    diaby and chamakh both lookin gr8….certainly once to start at ccup……may give arshavin atleast another game and some more quality time on pitch .

  • Langers says:

    Ramsey a 5?! no chance. more of 7. He was our brightest midfelder today. Good passing and some very nice touches. It should have been Arteta who went off as he looked very tired. Vermalean rating was also very harsh. He was beaten once but the amount of times he won the ball was staggering.

  • Poor says:

    Wait a minute what is our goal, are we going for 4th or to win the league, im not having limited ambitions we have to finish as high as possible.

    We drum on about having a better team than spurs but if they win there game in hand against Bolton at home then they go second in the league and are yet to play Norwich, Swansea, Bolton, Stoke, Sunderland before the half way mark.

    Lets not make excuses we didnt win today because Arteta and Ramsay were poor and Robin didnt score, first team to man mark him and we draw, if other teams follow suit we wont win unless someone else steps up.

    They got themselves in this mess with a bad start and now we are suppose to congratulate them for a spirited 1-1 draw with Fulham, Noo……..

  • Osmond Mtetwa says:

    it is a big squad indeed that Wenger has at his disposal but is the quality that big? l wonder. firstly why does he change a winning team? we lost a lot of points beggining of the season and surely we cant afford to keep loosing to teams like Fulham after beating big teams like Chelsea with wide numbers,5 goals. this was the case last season with AW changing the team day in day out. look at Totenham stick to one team and get the results. Now that AW talks of fatigue l wonder what he will say during Christmas when we play after every 2 days. AW learn from your past. Come January buy a top striker, a fox in the box and results will come

  • Johnny Deigh says:

    Did anyone else notice the play when Arsenal countered, Arteta played the ball for Ramsey who took the ball all the way up the left flank, beating two or three players. Arshavin started sprinting early on the break but after about 50 yards he ran out of gas and just stopped then and there on the pitch. Ramsey then didn’t have anyone to pass the ball to because Arshavin didn’t run into space behind the defenders, presumably because he was tired.

    Hate to say it, but Arshavin is the new Denilson – lazy and like playing a man down when he is on the pitch.

  • nOWAY says:

    Santos had a awful game and was at fault for the goal. Too much dribbling not enough clearing. I thought arsenal had learnt that by now

  • para says:

    “”Yossi Benayoun, Ju Young Park and why not, Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain were signed for a reason and the reason, hopefully, was not to warm the bench.”"

    I too fully expected to see Park and/or AOC on the bench if not starting in games like these that are after CL games.

    It was clear to me that Fullham were going to get a point, and at one point it looked like they would win it too.

    • Brummie Gooner says:

      I think that is exactly why Yossi was signed. He is there for cover, in case of emergency and not for the progressive development of the team. I like him but he was only a bit-part player at Liverpool and only played very rarely at Chelsea, even allowing for his injury.

  • lee says:

    I really dont see why arteta is considered so important in the team. He is only good at controlling the tempo of the game when we are winning. He usually goes missing offensively when we are losing or under pressure although I will admit that hes not afraid to muck in defensively which I admire. In my opinion he needs to start playing more defence splitting through balls and be a bit more adventurous when going forward

  • DDinLA says:

    This game is a reminder that without RVP we would presently be 12th or worse. RVP has never made it through an entire season and now he is a year older the odds are stacked that he is heading for injury. Who is going to provide the goals then?

    We may look like we are competing for top four but in reality we are hanging by A thread on RVPs left foot. It’s not far from 6th to 10th and there is no sign of Spurs or Newcastle fading yet, although toonsost likely. Wishful thinking that Chelsea will make room for us.

    And the fact that Arshavin was not sold this summer is another aspect of Wenger’s bungled transfer efforts (followed by last minute panic). We are still paying the price for that.

    Wenger admitted the era of having a “plan” or building a young team is over. For me he is just seeing out his contract at this point. This is a cobbled together team for his last year. That’s where we really are.

    My prediction: 6th.

  • Fanfab says:

    Highly disappointing performance considering the fact that with exception of Gervinho it was our first choice squad…I really fear what will happen when the usual injury curse strikes us.

    I don’t fear Liverpool or Newcastle but Spurs are already 8 points ahead effectively and Chelsea would again strengthen their squad in January…Top 4 is getting more and more difficult to achieve

  • Bayonne Jean says:

    This fixture had “ominous” written all over it, given the really tough match with BvB on Wednesday. (And wouldn’t it be fair to see that side somehow grab second in the CL group and give a first place side fits in the round of 16?)

    So, Chris, I think the most important rating for this match has to be for AW. For me, he needed to look at the opposition, the state of the Arsenal players, and act accordingly. Fulham are a veteran team with a defense oriented coach who want to play at a more measured pace. So why not choose to rest some of your knackered players and put in more high energy types to take the other side out of their comfort zone?

    So how did he do? For me, better than most would give him credit for, though overall we did play to the opposition’s plan..

    Biggest failure was not resting either Ramsey or Arteta. Big preference would have been for Ramsey to have been replaced by Arshavin in the central attacking midfield role. Aaron has shown already a few times this season that he tires, and when he does, he slows matters down and his shot becomes (even more) woeful. Arsh would be put in his favored position, and he would have done a lot better than on the wing.

    For me, AW was right to sit Gervinho and Koscielny. On Wednesday, Gervinho had the weakest game of the starting 11, looked tired and far from sharp; Kos needed the break as well. Where AW came up short was not using either Benayoun or even AOC in the wing slot — both high energy types to put pressure on — rather than Arshavin. He had his hands tied with respect to Kos (this would have been a perfect game for Jenkinson!), but Djourou did fine.

    In game subs? Given the game situation, his subbing of Diaby for Mertesacker (Diaby much more capable of breaking down a defense individually) and Chamakh for Arshavin (the most likely way to score with ten minutes to go with Fulham parking the bus was through the air) were fine. But huge weakness was not pulling Arshavin either at halftime or soon after for either Benayoun or AOC.

  • northernbof says:

    Arshavin…. ruined by Wenger’s misuse.There was another one playing for Fulham,didn’t do too badly.

  • Johnny Deigh says:

    Santos was excellent for me. Arteta was solid and you have to consider that he is playing DM alongside Song with Ramsey taking the more advanced “Cesc” role.

    Also thought that Vermaelen played rather well considering that Zamora was constantly holding his jersey.

  • GoonerSat says:

    The wide array of comments, portray that most of us were expecting a little more from Arsenal in this London derby.

    But I just want to put a couple of things into perspective, the entire Arsenal squad and staff have had to put in a 120% effort since the worst start to the season in Arsenal history. Just think of what happens when you are at 120% for 5 games.. It feels like you have played 6 games.

    Yes, this is why you have depth and squad rotation many would argue, which is where you begin to question A.W management skills. I’m sure he has his reasons for playing who he plays and when.

    Arsene showed today that he is a great coach, yes the word is GREAT. He took out a defensive asset to add extra offensive pressure, 3-5-2 which means that he threw caution to the wind and played this derby like a cup game. Allowed RvP to turn provider for Chamak, Walcott and Gervinho wide. Fulham were waiting for us in their own half and Wenger took advantage of that.

    Why?

    We can’t afford to lose ANY games until pretty much the end of the season. I mean the total loss tally at the end of the season can’t be above 6 if we draw more than 7 and this is assuming our direct opponents drop more points against each other. Seeing the Barclay Premier League winners with a tally over 80 is almost becoming a trend.

    This puts more pressure on Wenger to keep his key players on the pitch (midfield and RvP) the midfield is lacking, other than Ramsey and Arteta we have a no creative input, so they will be on the 80-90% of the time. We don’t depend on RvP up front we depend on providing the service that our striker needs, by this I mean ball-to-feet or cross.

    I enjoyed the game, disapointed with the draw as everyone had a hard time this week and it was a good moment to take advantage of that, but there are many games left and this Arsenal team has found a lost asset.. Resilience, i don’t think that we would have come back from this same situation last year, but this year we fought back and took that one point.

    Every game in the Premier League is a final until the others drop more points.

    Go Gooners

  • RodGoonerInTtown says:

    Bring Carlos Vela back!!!! Arshavin out

  • Frizty says:

    We looked tired!!!! Especially Arteta (who i feel has been great for us this year changing the tempo of the game and keeping posession for us) and Ramsey
    Ashavin was not up to it but very rarely he is, he isnt a winger!!!! There is no point having the likes of OAC and coloquin in the squad if wenger isnt going to use them OAC isnt better then Theo or girvinho yet but i feel when either needs a rest he should be the direct replacement. Coloquin could have slipped in for Arteta to give him a rest and then he would have been fresh for the city game.
    We are always linked with many players but one who impressed me midweek is Lewandowski and feel he could be a great backup for Van Persie.
    Need to clear out some dead wood and bring in some replacements that will challenge for a start. The likes ashavin chamkha and rosinsky are good players but we need a striker who is a goal scorer and a better creative midfielder then the other 2

  • winn says:

    Rather harsh on the team. Lets not get too dissappointed , these things happen. I understand the level of anxiety. But i must admit that Song, arteta and ussually Ramsey are not quick and fast, and not too creative. Its not Song’s and to a certain extent Artea’s job. Its mostly Ramsey’s job which he did not do. Arshavin, yeah very dissappointing. I am not buying this nonsense that he plays in behind the main striker. Hey Theo plays out of position , look at him now. AA needs to go. For me we missed Gervihno.

  • Simon says:

    Is it my imagination or did another article appear and disappear from this site about the Fulham game?

    • Chris says:

      Must be your imagination :)

      • Simon says:

        Yea – overtired from having to get up at 4am to watch the games here in the antipodes I guess. I left my comment on the wrong article. What I said was:

        A worrying aspect of Wenger’s management is how slow he is to react to events on the pitch. Many of us could see the first goal coming. The midfield were slow on the ball and although I dont have the stats in front of me but I estimate possession was 60/40 in Fulham’s favour in the 10 minutes leading up to the goal. I was screaming at my TV to make the change from half time on.

        It’s not as if I had any great insight – every commentator on the game was saying the same thing. I’ve seen this from Wenger many times – a reluctance to move to Plan B until its too late.

  • Pat Rice says:

    I know he just came back but I seriously don’t see anything Diaby can bring to the team, he’s a waste of space.

    • Scott (USA) says:

      What game were you watching? Diaby should have come on earlier.

  • WiseGunner says:

    Diaby should take over from Ramsy as he is more creative, tough and moves. Also he adds steal to the midfield. Diaby when fit and on his “A” game is a brilliant box to box player…Ramsey is slow and still maturing. Against man city, we need a combo of Song, Diaby and Arteta.

  • Aleito says:

    Did anyone else notice that Arshavin was supposed to play behind or infront of RVP, yet he ended up drifting to the wing way too much… I think that was the biggest clue – he forgot how to play in the position in which he can excel. At least he doesn’t look as chubby as he did end of last year, but honestly it’d be nice to see more than 10 minutes of decent football out of him.

  • CJ says:

    Seriously, Shava need to be played in the hole. He doesn’t possess the stamina or pace to do the job that Grevinho and Walcott do. I know you all expect him to be extremely quick and check back. But he a CAM, not a winger. Everyone seem to of forgot this. His best games this season have been him playing in his actual position. Sadly, Rasmey plays there cause he lacks the flexibility to play anywhere else on this team. Wenger been force to play Shava out of position for how many years now? 3 years? So cut the player some slack. He doesn’t have age on his size so stop expecting he going to be just as fast as Walcott, Ryo, Ox, and Grenvinho on the wing. The man on the team to create goals and score them. He’ll show up in Janurary.

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