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Arsenal vs Manchester City preview: Old Gunners return for Cup. Plus favourite line-up

Written by Chris on November 29, 2011 – 4:45

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The Game

Arsenal today play one of their most important games of the season as they host Manchester City, in the Carling Cup.

Before moving on to today’s game, a few words on the Fulham one, a game that showed that the so-called big squad available to Arsene is yet to show that it is a big one in terms of quality and with the Christmas period fast approaching, this is of course a concern.

To get a draw against a very good Fulham side is no disaster after all the positive results we had recently but let’s not forget that we dropped so many points at the start of the season that, simply put, we cannot afford to drop anymore.

In a way, those believing that the season-start crisis is over need to think again as it is when you get results like Saturday’s that you fully understand how much we are suffering and how much we will suffer the consequences of an embarrassing start to the season.

Also, a lot has been said on Andrey Arshavin and his umpteenth poor performance and with Gervinho leaving in January for the African Nations Cup, one has to wonder who will take over on the left wing since the Russian, apparently, is proving George Graham and his “poor buy” statement right.

Make no mistake, when Andrey signed, many considered him as a perfect fit for Arsenal and Arsene Wenger’s squad and he was probably the reason why we qualified for the Champions League when he joined in the 2009 January transfer window. But, as the man himself said, one good game every two months is not enough and as it’s been almost always the case with many Arsenal players over the last few seasons, consistency is the key.

One player who is finally delivering on a consistent basis is Theo Walcott. Together with Wojciech Szczesny, Theo was maybe the only one satisfied with his Fulham performance as he did his job to perfection and it’s great to see young Theo proving his critics wrong, including myself of course.

To conclude, Fulham showed that a confident squad, a quality squad and having in your team the one who could easily be described as the best striker in the world, is not enough. And the sooner our manager and the players understand this, the sooner we will avoid surprises like the one we witnessed against the Cottagers.

But on to City. Only a fool would consider this game as an easy one and considering that it’s a knock-out type of game, we could indeed be out of the competition when the referee blows his final whistle.

Not trying to be negative of course, I’m just saying that when we rest people we replace them with players you would expect to see on the bench whilst Manchester City, oh well, when they replace players they unleash the likes of Sergio Aguero, Samir Nasri and Edin Džeko. Nice bench to have.

But anyway. Samir Nasri, Gael Clichy and Kolo Toure could all feature today at the Emirates and of course it will be nice to see the warm welcome these three will receive, especially the first of the two Frenchman. Yeah … sure.

As always, my favourite line-up is below. Remember you can submit your own at Arsenal Interactive and then share it on Twitter and Facebook.

Favourite line-up

Arsenal vs Manchester City

Today’s game is a tricky one for Arsene, for a number of reasons. Rotation is the first since many players – as we saw on Saturday – need proper rest ahead of next month’s busy schedule. But, it’s City we are facing and if we start with a weak side we could easily be humiliated as it was the case in 2009 when they eased past us by three goals to nil.

In my opinion, we can opt for eleven players who would allow some regulars to rest but to also provide quality on the pitch.

For me, Lukasz should start in goal with Johan and Sebastien in central defence and Andre and Laurent on the wings. Many will not want Sebastien to start but remember that with Johan he had a number of very good performances last season, such as the extremely solid one away against Wolves.

In midfield, Yossi, Tomas and Abou should all feature, the first two to bring experience and Abou in order to assess his fitness level. Young Alex Oxlade-Chamberlain should complete the line-up in the right.

Up front, I would go for Park and Marouane. Funnily enough, I believe that these two could do well together with the Moroccan shielding the ball and doing the dirty work in the air with the South Korean’s job to of course score goals when given the opportunity.

And then sure, the likes of Thomas Vermaelen and Robin van Persie could make an appearance in the second half if things are not going according to plan although to be honest, I wouldn’t be surprised if Arsene lets this Cup go as ultimately we know that the EPL and the Champions League are our two main objectives of the season.

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Arsenal Interactive

And of course, don’t forget you’re still in time to pick your preferred team for this game. And when the final whistle blows, don’t forget to rate the players, comment on their performances and share your personal ratings with your friends. All this and more, available at http://www.arsenal-interactive.com.

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  • amused says:

    Play miquel against a team with that much depth =

    1) He plays brilliantly and we have unearthed a gem early
    2) He gets caught out and we get owned 10-0 and he gets his confidence utterly shattered.

    I think squillaci should start instead of miquel.

  • Dhaval says:

    No to Santos. He deserves rest. He’s playing non stop for so many games. The lad is built like bull but even bulls need rest. For, me he was also one of the players who had his best game at Fulham. I had read some where that he’s the #10 of fullbacks. And I totally agree with that. Man has more flair then most Attacking Mids and Wingers of PL and when he goes forward he really is a treat to watch.

    I think we should have all 4 CBs at back and flat back 4. No one adventuring forward at least not beyond half way line.

    And I really don’t agree with 4-4-2 at least not when we’re to play AOC. He doesn’t track back. He may be the “Ox” but still a long way to go for him.

    I’d have something like this. I have my doubts about Yennaris but still if you’re to prove yourself worthy then why not against the much better player.

    [img]http://www.footballuser.com/formations/2011/11/281500_Arsenal.jpg[/img]

    For me 2-1 to us. Chamakh to score two headers. Dzeko will be owned by JD or Koz who so ever is up against him.

  • Aussie Jack says:

    I have no idea what the City line-up will be like but if that`s what Wenger puts on the field then all I can say is, “we derserve all we get”. I can pick only two worthy of wearing an Arsenal shirt. My own feeling is he will play his best defensive back four with Sczcesny in goal. The midfield looks reasonable with Beneyoun, Diaby, Rosicky and Ox-Chamberlain.
    Park can`t be left alone but I`m not sure Chamakh is the answer, isn`t Watt available?

    The truth is we don`t have a `B` side, do we?

    • mike says:

      you are 100% right

  • caligunna16 says:

    i see the line up going differently tomorrow. Chris, I am under the impression that should we field the line up you have offensively we would be sound, however we would be countered on and defensively a little weak, diaby and rosicky do not offer protection to the back 4. this is a game when that is definitely important. I would give frimpong and coquelin the holding task and play the following line up.

    ————chu————
    yossi—–arsha—–aoc
    —–coquelin–frim——-
    miq—djo—kos—yenn
    ———fabianski——–

    with RVP/gervinho/chamakh or diaby (if fit)

    • amused says:

      If rosicky in unavailable, i think andrey might indeed play in the middle since diaby had a minor setback. Awesome.

      I think chamakh will be prefered. Park will play on the left and AOC will start from the bench.

  • summerbreez says:

    I like the 442 formation but i would use it with the midfield of ……as i would want to block and frustrate the opponents in the midfield with the game plan that man city dont get into our half and change the game with wallxot gervinho and song in the second half though i wounder how MR wenger will approach the game

    benayoon …..diaby…..frimpong ….roscky

    chamberlain…..park

    the second half
    chamberlain—-daiby….song……gervinho

    walcott——–park

  • Fanfab says:

    Would like to see likes of coquelin, frimpong and miquel be involved just so that we know our bench strength for the busy christmas period…Anyways don’t think Santos has legs to play another game in such a short time. Replace Santos with Miquel and Chamakh with coquelin so that we are not short in the middle of park.

  • Rookie says:

    Id much rather see Miguel and Koscielny in center back, and djourou at right back since he has done a fantastic job at fullham the other day, and I have more trust in Koscielny in center back. Miguel in my opinion is better than Squilaci….but so is any other defender, but then again…his experience may help. Heres my Line up
    Fabianski
    Djourou, Miguel/Squillaci, Koscielny, Santos
    Frimpong-Coquelin
    Chamberlain-Rosicky/Diaby-Arshavin/Benayoun
    Park/Chamakh

  • redsurfable says:

    will it be possible to watch this game on live stream? The other Carling Cup games haven’t been available…

    • chris987el says:

      its being shown live here in australia so will be streams available im sure

  • zaki says:

    nice lineup I like it but S.S but Miguel ..

    my prediction
    arsenal 2
    man city 1
    come gooners we can do it money can buy players but not results

  • henry says:

    i think ti start wif those players you mention is not a bad idea at all, but we need to rest our key players okay

  • well said about saturdays game… am still gutted about that draw!! tbh, it felt more like a loss than a shared point. felt so ill after the final whistle that i shut off anything footy related ie sky sports news, fox soccer channel, match of the day, talksport, etc etc. i bet the pundits had a field day on us!… hopefully this draw does not come back to bite us at the end. well said about no more dropping points… every league game is a must win! although i must say, no one is safe tbf, not even citeh and certainly not trafford utd!

    arshavin arshavin… game sums it all. hes not a winger and we cant afford to break up the midfield trio to accomadate a 4-4-2 with arshavin in the hole. fulham had fear written all over their faces when gervinho came on.

    anyways, wenger shouldnt bother with th league cup. just to reiterate, every LEAGUE GAME is a MUST win! if wilshere and diaby were fit, then id say go for it but atm, league is top priority! Chris, we think alike… was thinkin pairing park n chamakh together with the ox on the wing. altho i think benayoun should play in the middle with diaby and start gervinho opposite of ox-chamberlain just to put up a good fight against manc 5hitty. dont know bout playn the squid :/

    tom watt on arsenal fans forum mentioned which is more important… a trophy or champions league?………….

    cant wait for DEC 18th @ etihad… whutta game thatll be!

    COYG

    • and if anyone is attending the league cup game… please let $amir Na$ri that i wish him all the worst on citeh’s bench! :)

  • Hakym says:

    Dis d team i we like
    fabiansky
    kos vam djou santos
    chamb rosicky abuo andri
    rvp park
    sub:theo>chamb song>andri gervinho>park

  • Samuel Anodi says:

    We should not repeat mistakes of past seasons. We don’t have good bench that can step up to deliver in times of difficulty. I always suggest we let go of these tired leg in our team; Arsh, Tom, and chama. No hard feelings, they are not good for Arsenal right now. January is around the corner, we need to buy two or three good and fit players to boost our team for the challenges ahead or loose out in winning any trophy this season. Long live Gunners.

  • William says:

    I don’t think you should pick 4-4-2 teams anymore. We never play 4-4-2 unless it’s late in games and we’re trailing, and that will not change anytime soon.
    Also, neither Diaby nor Rosicky are truly holding midfielders. Either Frimpong or Coquelin will have to play (unless Wenger opts for Song).
    Squillaci has not played in a competitive game all year. I’d rather not have him make his season debut against Man City.
    However, I do think that this is a game that we may just let go. Facing City’s backups wouldn’t be an easy task even if we had a fully fit starting 11.

  • adrian says:

    I think the line up mentioned above, subject to injury, is probably the best available. I hope that the subs bench would be populated by our up and coming young players. This is the type of game most suitable to give them first team opportunities. I am not expecting too much, but will hope home advantage may yield an unlikely result. There may even be a penalty shoot out.

  • Pavel says:

    I would rather play Yennaris as RB and Kos along with Johan in the central role

  • Bentschke says:

    I think that we need to rest Santos – the kid will die completely if we keep playing him as much as we have.
    I think we give the young fellas a go – with a bit of experience in the mix, and to give some players like park and chamack a chance to find some form – as we might need them with a busy december.

    Sczenzny
    Djourou – Squid – Yennaris – Miquel
    Coqulin – Frimpong
    Rosicky – Ox
    Arshavin
    Chamack

    maybe more of a 4-4-1-1 and with a good bench if we need it as well!

    • gooner 11 says:

      santos is not a kid anymore.. he’s about 27 yo if im not mistaken.

  • TorontoGunner says:

    3 points against Wigan should be our focus this week. Give the youngster a run. One player who I would like to see is Oguzhan Ozyakup. From reading the reserve match reports he appears to be a part of many of their recent goals, either assisting or scoring.

  • Jide says:

    ————Park————
    yossi—–—–Diaby————Oxlade————roscky
    —–Frimpong——-
    Santos—Koscielny—Vermaleen—djo
    ———Mannone——–

    I think with this we can overcome Man city with this squad and let Miyakchi, gervinho,Chamakh and Mique be on sub

  • Shari says:

    With that line-up I think we’ll only have a little chance, but of course we can’t afford to play the likes of RvP, Arteta, Song and Walcott as starter. They surely need some rest.

    But as much as I don’t like city and want us to win over them, I personally don’t mind if we lose (not with big margin of course). We need to concentrate more on PL and CL. We still have to fight hard for a place in top 4.

    So I’ll just enjoy the game, not worrying whether we’re going to win or lose it. I’ll save my worry for saturday’s game where we can’t afford to have another draw result let alone lose it.

  • DDinLA says:

    The Carling cup after last years debacle is a distracting curse for us. Do we really want the pressure of making it to the final after what happened last year, sending us into relegation form?

    Still, for those that want to compete for everything only thing helping us is Man city have had little time to rest and they have to travel. However their B team is almost another EPL first team squad in itself.

    It’s just an unfortunate draw but frankly I would prefer to see us crash out of this dumb cup early. We don’t have the squad for all these competitions especially relying on one striker as we essentially do. An injury to RVP and we are in big trouble. The danger is a shellacking will send the squad into a tailspin like last year after the Carling final. Wenger grossly failed to get the team out of that funk and I believe the confidence is still more fragile than we all would like to believe. A graceful 2.0 exit with a decent showing would be an acceptable minimum.

    We have a shot at the FA cup and with some luck we can get to the CL semis let’s focus on that. The carling cup is now a poisoned chalice for us.

  • goooner says:

    fabianski
    yennaris-squillaci-djourou-vermaelen
    frimpong-coquelin
    benayoun
    arshavin-AOC
    chamack

  • Unbeaten 49 says:

    Isn’t Diaby injured again?

  • faisal says:

    never give up arsenal you have a power to win manchester city

    i love all the arsenal players

  • WiseGunner says:

    *************************Fabianski*********************

    Djourou******Squilacci*******Vermaelen*****Miquel

    ******Daiby**************Coquelin*************Benayoun

    ****Oxelade*********** Chamakh***********Park****

  • Vince says:

    After doing a lil research, Santos n Diaby will not feature because they are not the 18 man roster list! two players that will be very missed!
    http://www.arsenal.com/news/news-archive/eighteen-man-squad-named-for-man-city-clash

  • summerbreez says:

    Just seen the 18 man squad that MR wenger has selected and here is my pick of the best 11

    ………………fabyanski

    dejeroo…koscilny…varmalin….estmond

    chamberlain…frimpong …benayoon….conqilen

    ………………archivan

    …………………park

  • Scott (USA) says:

    *************** Sczenzny***************

    Djourou****Kos****Miquel****Santos

    *****Frimpong*****Conquelin*********

    Ox************Rosicky******Benayoun

    **************Chamakh*****************

  • mike_greece says:

    Koscielny and Santos will not feature, they desperately need a rest, they are playing non stop. And I think Rosicky is still injured. The starting eleven will be

    Fabianki
    Djourou Miquel Squillaci Yennaris
    Frimpong Coquelin
    Benayoun
    Arshavin Park AOC

    If Diaby is fit (I heard he had a muscular problem on Saturday) he could play in central midfield and move Coquelin at full back instead of Yennaris. We could also see Arshavin playing in the hole and Yossi on the wing. The only first eleven player we could see is Mertesacker…

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